Big_Dan

lmao , ive force fed myslef oats before , was not a pretty sight 15 mins later !! haha

sorry for high jacking the thread

AussieMarc

yeh however im already having 3 shakes a day and already i believe that is too much.. a supplement isn't a replacement so i would prefer real food. but yeh ill chuck it in after this week as im trying to get into the hang of the current diet before i make too many changes.

calorie intake is sitting at about 4500.. for someone as lean and a fast acting metabolism like me, i would see that as a minimum.

AussieMarc

yeh mate ill chuck them in on wednesday and see how they make me feel during the session.. i do love oats.. however i got a bit over them after eating them for breakfast for the last 6 months.. hence why i blend them..

in a shake they aren't to bad as they don't end up as thick and creamy as they do cooked in the morning.. the more calories i get in me the better anyway mate so ill throw them in..



**EDIT**

diet has been changed (on my excel spreadsheet).. the change is basically i added 50g oats & whey in a shake and moved the stack to post-wo..

added 2x bananas between breakfast and snack 1..

AussieMarc

ok 3 days in...

this diet is killing me!! im fine in the morning.. but after lunch time i feel like i have to force feed myself every meal. its dreadful. i have 2 tuna sandwiches and one to go.. this last one is a killer right now. time for another shake soon i think.. to was all this food down. however that will only make me feel more bloated.

i feel like crap but know i gotta eat.

as for lifts - my back wasn't kind to me today so my deadlifts suffered as a result of.. i even felt my lower back in my BO rows this morning which is a first.. not good.

going to book in for a physio appointment next week to make sure everything is safe and sound to continue doing deadlifts and squats.

an injury is the last thing i need.. for once im actually deadly motivated to do this yet my back plays up..

might be just one of those days!

ah24

I know exactly how you feel mate, it's horrible but gotta be done, give it 4-5 days and the bloat will reduce, couple weeks probably before the food gets easier to eat

AussieMarc

yeh mate all i can do is EAT EAT EAT and EAT... my colleagues were laughing at me trying do down my 2x 95g tins of tuna on 3 multigrain bread 2 hours after lunch..

pauly7582

I know being lean you might find this a crazy idea but HIIT will improve your appetite a lot. Non catabolic and a nice GH boost.

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Strength cycle: Test enth/Tren enth/Oxymeth/Halo/Proviron/T3

Bench: 180kg
Deadlift: 260kg
Squat: 200kg (for reps- focusing on DL over quads)
Overhead Press: 100kg

the_illuminati

looking very good m8, nice and ripped lyk bruce lee

Five-O

Theres such a thing as "overkill" mate, even on a bulker.

Tall

Agreed. Tabatas also gives me a massive Libido kick

Tall

Perhaps too much for one meal...

Tall

Not enough carbs and too much protein for a bulk...

Carbs are protein sparing... That much protein and your body will just be converting what it doesn't need to glucose / excreting it out...

I also very very very highly doubt you need all that food - as you obviously haven't been eating that much in the past - hence your comments on how the diet is killing you...

Personally - I'd start with 200g Protein, 400g Carbs, 50g Fat (mainly from EFAs) for two weeks and see how your weight gain goes.

Up the carbs by say 30g ED and the fats by 10g ED if you're not gaining weight after two weeks.

Assuming all this is being done 'naturally'...?

AussieMarc

i was eating consistently 3500 cals daily before this diet mate, and i wasn't gaining as i do too much recreational cardio (cross country mountain biking, surfing, rock climbing.. at least 2x a week) and my job is active (being a PT) i take some clients for runs etc.. so cardio wise i was doing too much and what i was eating was just going down the drain..

i tried eating more carbs but i felt like sh!t doing it and still wasn't getting anywhere.. ive built my diet around everything that people have said on here - change this, change that.. perhaps im miscalculating the macros in my food?

today has felt good, food wise. i know it's only 10:00 but i feel satisfied.. this morning i actually woke up hungry.

however yes im open to all suggestions.. what should i change? half the tuna on multigrain to 1 can and 1 slice of bread? take out a shake? add more oats/muesli?

i find ii have to get 7 meals in if i eat every 2 hours as i wake up at 4:00 most days and then go to bed around 10:30-11:00 at night - due to work..

so that means 4:00, 6-7:00, 9:00, 12:00, 2-3:00, 5-6:00, 8-9:00

anyway, thanks as always TH&S.. let me know what you think i should change and ill give it a shot next week and compare the 2.. my diet is a decent improvement from what i was previously eating so i would like to stick to this for the next week at least because im already in the habbit of it.

Jock

Does dry-humping the floor whilst gasping for air count?



Diet looks good marc, sorry to hear baout your troubles getting the food down ya, I suppose its a habit more than anything.

Did you move the dextrose to PWO btw?

AussieMarc

yeh jock mate i did..

as for eating - the past 2 days have been a breeze to get the food down.. in fact i find myself feeling a little bit hungry late at night and early morning so maybe im missing something at night?

as for my diet. im going to try and reconstruct it and add more carbs (thanks to a few of you boys that have given me advice on that topic).. and cut out a bit of protein.. but im just worried since i have started this diet, at first it was hard to get it down me.. now im starting to feel hungry at some stages! and that can be an hour or so after my last meal.