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Old 12-09-2007, 09:27 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: My first post - What would you recomend?

Well done on the progress mate the rest is all trial and error, different things work for different people.
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Old 12-09-2007, 10:33 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: My first post - What would you recomend?

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I dont agree... I was a flabby blubba.. and no matter how much experience people have... you will get a million different opinions mate.. lose that ugly fat! You will still see lean muscle under there without worrying about going for more mass... you have a good size under that coat of fat already! You will feel a whole lot better about yourself than having that fat hanging over your trousers! Gaining a vast amount of muscle mass to help speed up yur metabalism will not give you sudden fat loss anything like a lower calories intake... and upping your cardio! I did this myself... and feel a whole lot better than being fat!

Good luck and great progress for far! keep it up
i never said to stop any cardio, it is a fact that muscle will burn more fat than you do without it.
it is also a fact that you burn more fat if you train with weights and then do cardio than either one alone, yes you will hear plenty of different opinions as yours is....

From the recent pictures he is not that fat but lacks muscle tone hence my advice.

by modifing a diet does not mean go for mass building which is not what i said but it is possible to do a clean bulk and make clean gains...

so what percentage of fat do you recommend he stops at to build muscle?? 15%/10%/8%/5%
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Old 12-09-2007, 11:33 PM   #18 (permalink)
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i never said to stop any cardio, it is a fact that muscle will burn more fat than you do without it.
it is also a fact that you burn more fat if you train with weights and then do cardio than either one alone, yes you will hear plenty of different opinions as yours is....

From the recent pictures he is not that fat but lacks muscle tone hence my advice.

by modifing a diet does not mean go for mass building which is not what i said but it is possible to do a clean bulk and make clean gains...

so what percentage of fat do you recommend he stops at to build muscle?? 15%/10%/8%/5%
no offence to the guy, but he looks pretty fat to me. Only prob with advice is being more comfused by getting tons of different opinions.. lol.

I think its pretty much taken for granted he wont give up resistence training, as he never should which should be obvious to him to not stop lifting weights? just not to concentrate on bulking which will not allow him to drop that fat with less cardio and still highr cals.. and concentrate on upping his cardio, cutting down on the bad sugars/cals and get his ass sweating that fat off every day. The resistence training will give him good muscle tone/shape.... he wont be a big mass of muscle... but looking leaner/good. Eat every 3 hrs smaller meals ...drink your 8 pints of water.. to keep the metabalism flowing.. and be patient.

He looks about 25% fat might just be that pic... but looks like a good coat. We all have our own opinion but this isnt a dig at anyone.. I just think this is what I would chose to do.. BUT I hate fat and would chose fat loss over bulking for more mass... get down to a more healthier level of fat... 15% would be a good goal..but who genuinely ever knows there accurate fat % (not anything too crazy...this is acheivable) it would take motivation. Then he will be looking lean and fitter and healthier faster imo.
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no offence to the guy, but he looks pretty fat to me. Only prob with advice is being more comfused by getting tons of different opinions.. lol.

I think its pretty much taken for granted he wont give up resistence training, as he never should which should be obvious to him to not stop lifting weights? just not to concentrate on bulking which will not allow him to drop that fat with less cardio and still highr cals.. and concentrate on upping his cardio, cutting down on the bad sugars/cals and get his ass sweating that fat off every day. The resistence training will give him good muscle tone/shape.... he wont be a big mass of muscle... but looking leaner/good. Eat every 3 hrs smaller meals ...drink your 8 pints of water.. to keep the metabalism flowing.. and be patient.

He looks about 25% fat might just be that pic... but looks like a good coat. We all have our own opinion but this isnt a dig at anyone.. I just think this is what I would chose to do.. BUT I hate fat and would chose fat loss over bulking for more mass... get down to a more healthier level of fat... 15% would be a good goal..but who genuinely ever knows there accurate fat % (not anything too crazy...this is acheivable) it would take motivation. Then he will be looking lean and fitter and healthier faster imo.
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