Bulldozer

From common sense bud


There is always a new fad diet out thats supposed to work miracles. One minute carbs are the enemy, the next they are your friend. One minute fat is the bad guy, the next its your best friend.

Obese people that sit in a bed or wheel chair all day are not bodybuilders or weightlifters. So have totally different needs.

The simple answer is THERE IS NO SHORT CUT!!!!!!

It will take time to shift the lard. All you need is a slight calorific deficit and TIME.
Manipulating carbs is the best option, timed carbs, carb cycling , either or.

All these fad diets are just looking for a short cut IMO and there isnt one. Or some guy just trying to make a buck or too with the next "miracle diet"

I mean seriously, PSMF and all that jazz, a 2 week diet ??? What do you think your gonna loose in 2 weeks except a load of water and maybe 2 or 3 lbs of fat if your lucky!! Even loosing that much fat will be difficult as your probably have the energy level of a damp rag with 1200 odd calories a day. And there is no way on gods green earth that your not gonna loose some muscle tissue on such a crash diet.

You could loose the same amount of fat (if not more) and have a better chance of hanging onto LBM if you just cylced carbs with a slight calorific deficit and some cardio.

Who knows the most about how to loose bodyfat ?? I would say a bodybuilder myself. Show me a bodybuilder who uses the PSMF diet or any of that old tripe.

Tall

Had to reply in red above Bully - that was a long reply!

Bulldozer

MMM, cant say i agree with all yout reply bud.

I would call that PSMF a crash diet personally. Plus i cant see you loosing 4 lbs of fat a week. Unless your very obese.

Not all bodybuilders stay lean year round and most drop atleast 30 lbs to compete. Sure they use drugs, but any BB will tell you that diet has to be in check or drugs wont do squat. Once again never seen a BB use any kind of crash diet or PSMF. IIRC pscarb hadnt even heard of it. That says it all to me.

I dont agree that any diet will result in muscle tissue loss. But i have absolutlely no doubt that any diet where you half starve yourself you will.

But anyhoo. Dont wanna hijack slams thread.

Think we can agree to disagree

Slamdog

no, please carry on.....


I'm interested in all opinions as they are relevant to me...

my living conditions.....

works is going to be as follows... leave home thursday evening, get into truck, drive to wherever.... sleep in the cab sometime between 12 and 15 hours later in a layby or on an industrial estate somewhere.... wake up, do some cardio work, drive another night... till tuesday morning. I won't know where i will be until 12 hours before hand, sometimes less than that. the only certainty is the fact that i should get home sometime on tuesdays.

once i get the truck kitted out properly, I will be fitting my own fridge and cooker in there, but a fridge is about 300 quid and a cooker another 100. I just need to get the basics done first and make sure that it is actually a good truck before i spend any money or time. if the truck is crap, i'll be asking for another one, again, then i would have to kit it out. Luckily, my depot only has volvos, but they can change at any time to scania, MAN or Mercs so until i'm settled i don't want to be buying stuff to fit one truck and then have to make it fit in another.

meal timings are going to be random too... some places let you sit on site to have a break, some make you leave. then there is the load planner too.. if they book you to be somewhere at x time you have to try and get there.... sometimes there isn't time to take a break. now cruise control is great, shakes, bars, tubs of cottage cheese etc can all be eaten whilst driving.

fad diets... yep, they are crap. the reasoning behind the 'crash' approach is literally because of the crash weight gain. I have added far too much is a short space of time. as it seems to be a combination of water and fat, my thinking was to crash it out and get back to where i was a month ago so I can ease into a proper regime. finished my medication from the docs, even though my shoulder still hurts a bit but I am not going to get more because they just seem to bloat me. yep, i have crapped out as I said before.. my fault entirely for eating shyte too.

as for obeseness in response to bully... yep, i'm fat... the pics have proved that.. it was getting better (it still isn't anywhere near as bad as i was) but there is no way I could ever in my life have been described as lean.

I'll be honest as well, i have a supply of d-bol, i have also plenty of omnadren and decca but am reluctant to even look at any of it until i get my weigh and general diet sorted. I have said it before and i mean it... I'm an old fat bloke who has taken 40 years to get this lardy... I know it aint gonna go overnight with pills or pins... i do have eca and t3 as well as clen, which i have left alone whilst taking the docs gear for fear of contra-indications... i am wary when it comes to my health these days... i do want to be there for my kids.... but sure.. if there was a pill that worked wonders i'd try it.... i am desperate at times, demoralised. It is depressing when you are fat, have been the butt of jokes as a kid, when you look in the mirror and see wobbly skin and everyone else is lean, handsome, what most would consider 'attractive' to the opposite sex weight wise...

I sound so self pitying... I aint like that... I have lived with fat for ever. I have a thick skin, can take a joke or 300.... I am happy in myself with regards to life etc. I just wish for once to be lean.

You say about pro bbers Bully.. yep, losing 30lbs is easy when you are not balancing night shifts, family, working away etc.. it would be great to be able to say 'every day at 5am I train for an hour' if only i could have a life that was that organised. Don't say change my job.... I love it, I enjoy life, i enjoy the work and the money is pretty good too!.

Bulldozer

Hey slam buddy.

None of what i said was directed at you in anyway dude. I was just trying to get across my point that all these crash/fad diets are pants IMO.

You have made good progress and you sound very motivated. Im sure your reach your goals, all it takes is time bud.

hey im a young fat bloke lol, atleast im fat by BB terms. But i dont give a hoot. Im about 18/20 % b/f. But i dont train to look good as such, functional strength is far more appealing to me than some abs. So i wasnt picking at you mate.

i would leave the drugs in the cubbard for atleast another year bud. Thats just my opinion tho

Hit those basic compounds hard and build a bit more muscle and your find it easier to lean out and will probably lean out in the process anyway ;)

Slamdog

yep, the gear is locked away.. and nope, nothing taken personally.

18/20% would be good for me... love to be 10% but lets get real and do things a small step at a time.....

LiverSupport

Congratulations what an improvement - keep up the good work :beer1: