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Old 29-07-2007, 10:18 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Haha, well what can i say? I'd be surprised if half of the guys here had decent core strength.
TBH mate, i know its not an easy thing at all as tried last week as i said..but..most here are bodybuilders in that we want to compete or just get big. Simple i know but thats it - core stability isnt something many people are after here.

So, yes, you will have a stronger core than a lot of us, but thats because we dont specifically train for it and dont feel the need to!
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Re: Messys Core Strength training pics!

Thats a fair enough comment.

And i know we all train for different reasons, and once ago i had exactly the same mindset as allot of the other people here, with regards to what i was training for etc.
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Re: Messys Core Strength training pics!

So you dont get core strength from heavy deads, squats and standing OHP ??
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Old 29-07-2007, 10:36 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Core Stability more specifically, sure, well yu gain core stability by doing any exercise thats essentially not on a machine, any exercise that means you have to balance.

But of course you can always go that one step further.
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Re: Messys Core Strength training pics!

Exactly, most people dont know the benefits of it, how you do it, why you would do it and exactly what it is.

And yeah, as you said we all have different goals. Do whatever you feel you need to do mate! Most of the guys were just having a laugh anyway and dont mean it offensively!
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Re: Messys Core Strength training pics!

Sure it has its part but I train for size and strength, if I was playing football or doing ballet then the ball thing may be a good idea.

This is UK-MUSCLE not UK Fitness, so for me I'd rather do squats and DL's rather than stand on a ball and juggle.

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Old 30-07-2007, 09:16 AM   #22 (permalink)
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TBH mate, i know its not an easy thing at all as tried last week as i said..but..most here are bodybuilders in that we want to compete or just get big. Simple i know but thats it - core stability isnt something many people are after here.

So, yes, you will have a stronger core than a lot of us, but thats because we dont specifically train for it and dont feel the need to!
And going by all of your above statements, one day you`ll realise that that was a stupid post by a lllllllllllllloooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnngggggggg way....

And please try not to comeback and try to patronise me, been doing this for over 20 years which is longer than you`ve been on the palnet if memory serves me correct...

99% of bodybuliders are the narrowist minded people in any sport I have ever met, so scared of change or none comformist bbing media data, if it aint on anything specifically related to a bbing mag or internet site it gets shunned.....

You want to be the very best you can be?

Then learn to take on board EVERYTHING, train your core/trunk/pillar of strength , train it correctly and you`ll see some seriously good overall muscular gains in the rest of your body because you can handle more weights comfortably & properly in the rest of your training.

Not only that but you will be a lot healthier & your posture will be near on perfect which will come across even more so when you are onstage stood next to some hunched over neanderthal who`s posture is so bad he looks & walks like he is 60....

I`ve attahced a picture of a guy from the 80`s that trained his CORE properly and he aint even a bodybuilder (Olympic sport) and the weights he would use would have crushed most bodybuilders to a pulp..

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Old 30-07-2007, 09:18 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Core Stability more specifically, sure, well yu gain core stability by doing any exercise thats essentially not on a machine, any exercise that means you have to balance.

But of course you can always go that one step further.
Mate all credit to you for managing that on the swiss ball, excellent work.

Something I`ve wanted to do for sometime now but balance is pretty poor..lol...

Any plans to take it to the next level and do a proper barbell squat on it?
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Any plans to take it to the next level and do a proper barbell squat on it?
That sounds like a dangerous move to me! Wouldnt wanna be standing near by when he falls off!

Cookie i aint digging bud, but if that guy you posted isnt a bodybuilder why is he doing a variation of the most muscular pose? Seems strange
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That sounds like a dangerous move to me! Wouldnt wanna be standing near by when he falls off!

It is dangerous, but so is crossing the road. I only asked as I know and have seen others doi it as a progression from being able to balance on the ball..

Cookie i aint digging bud, but if that guy you posted isnt a bodybuilder why is he doing a variation of the most muscular pose? Seems strange

I aint a bber any more but I still throw the odd mm from time to time. I`m assuming it was a publicity shot for his sport or something he was doing at the time...
I`ve attached some more training shots of the guy....

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And going by all of your above statements, one day you`ll realise that that was a stupid post by a lllllllllllllloooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnngggggggg way....

And please try not to comeback and try to patronise me, been doing this for over 20 years which is longer than you`ve been on the palnet if memory serves me correct...

99% of bodybuliders are the narrowist minded people in any sport I have ever met, so scared of change or none comformist bbing media data, if it aint on anything specifically related to a bbing mag or internet site it gets shunned.....

You want to be the very best you can be?

Then learn to take on board EVERYTHING, train your core/trunk/pillar of strength , train it correctly and you`ll see some seriously good overall muscular gains in the rest of your body because you can handle more weights comfortably & properly in the rest of your training.

Not only that but you will be a lot healthier & your posture will be near on perfect which will come across even more so when you are onstage stood next to some hunched over neanderthal who`s posture is so bad he looks & walks like he is 60....

I`ve attahced a picture of a guy from the 80`s that trained his CORE properly and he aint even a bodybuilder (Olympic sport) and the weights he would use would have crushed most bodybuilders to a pulp..
I dont intend to make a comeback and try and 'patronise' you mate, get over yourself.

How was my post stupid? I didnt say we didnt need to train our cores - i said we dont feel the need to - notice the difference?

I understand how important core training is, and if you read my posts properly you would see that i mentioned the fact that not many people know the benefits of it or how to do it.

Im going along with what your trying to say to me, i do know the reasoning behind it - but for me at 17years old, id rather just focus on putting on size and worry about core stability/strength when im older.

I think you just wanted to post up them pics and the info tbh so just picked my post (partly due to my age? Seeing as you referred to it) and said dont bother with a comeback so could try demonstrate your knowledge?

Well done mate...but how about reading my posts first?;)

EDIT: Just re-read it..and yeah, your confirming what i said! You say BBer's are narrow minded - isnt that what i was implying but not as bluntly?
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A very strong mo fo by the looks of things!

I am not upto speed at all with powerlifting techniques, does the average powerlifter do a lot of core work??

How does an average powerlifter do core work?

Cookie your the man for the job i suspect.
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A very strong mo fo by the looks of things!

I am not upto speed at all with powerlifting techniques, does the average powerlifter do a lot of core work??

How does an average powerlifter do core work?

Cookie your the man for the job i suspect.
TBH with you mate powerlifting is not a sport I have done, and there are a few on here that do compete in it.

Core work is the same for everybody, independant of the sport you do..

Basic core work is simply a matter of exercises like Plank, side plank, bridges, tables (yeah very funny names I know) roll outs and such like, regualr crunches & sit ups do work BUT aint really that good imo, I prefer to test in other means.

Do a search on youtube & you will find plenty on stuff on there to get you started.
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I dont intend to make a comeback and try and 'patronise' you mate, get over yourself.


How was my post stupid? I didnt say we didnt need to train our cores - i said we dont feel the need to - notice the difference?

Same thing

I understand how important core training is, and if you read my posts properly you would see that i mentioned the fact that not many people know the benefits of it or how to do it.

Im going along with what your trying to say to me, i do know the reasoning behind it - but for me at 17years old, id rather just focus on putting on size and worry about core stability/strength when im older.

Actually, after seeing a pic ot two the other day I was impressed with your developement, so age was only used as refernce point..

Like I said, start now and reap rewards, start later suffer the consequences(sp)... penny prevention=pound of cure

I think you just wanted to post up them pics and the info tbh so just picked my post (partly due to my age? Seeing as you referred to it) and said dont bother with a comeback so could try demonstrate your knowledge?

Nope

Well done mate...but how about reading my posts first?;)

I did and others too

EDIT: Just re-read it..and yeah, your confirming what i said! You say BBer's are narrow minded - isnt that what i was implying but not as bluntly?

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TBH with you mate powerlifting is not a sport I have done, and there are a few on here that do compete in it.

Core work is the same for everybody, independant of the sport you do..

Basic core work is simply a matter of exercises like Plank, side plank, bridges, tables (yeah very funny names I know) roll outs and such like, regualr crunches & sit ups do work BUT aint really that good imo, I prefer to test in other means.

Do a search on youtube & you will find plenty on stuff on there to get you started.
Cheers cookie, i have to admit that im not really into direct core strength training. I was just curious what a powerlifter might have to say on the matter.

I think some bodybuilders could learn a lot from some powerlifting techniques. IMO
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