looking for more definition - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

londonmuscle · 06-04-2007, 01:29 PM

Hi Guys
Joined the site recently through recomendation. Apparently this is the place to be for advice on bodybuilding! I've been training for a few years now over three of them seriously. Built a lot of size, always looking to add more lean muscle like any other guy but right now looking to loose body fat to show my physique at its best. Don't want to loose any lean mass in the process. Thanks for any advise or comments. Pics from end of 2006.

Delhi · 06-04-2007, 01:58 PM

Nice and big mate, but I agree you will look alot better when cut down.

If you need help with diet there is a diet section on the board, have a look in there and if you cant find what you are looking for then ask.

Five-O · 06-04-2007, 02:15 PM

You need to figure out what calories you need everyday to keep you at the weight you are now, and then subtract 500 which should in theory help you drop the weight. Around a lb a week if natural. If you cycle then dropping the weight whilst retaining the muscle should be easier but its all down to diet and clean eating.

meals need to be 6-7 per day region ideally.

Must include a portion of protein in each one.

Id go with 3 pro/carb meals and 3 pro/fat meals.

Utilize udo's/flax oil/almonds for your fat sources.

looking big, I agree, you'd look really good cut up.

londonmuscle · 10-04-2007, 06:32 PM

Thanks for the tips guys!

What's good for cutting?

**hackskii** · 10-04-2007, 06:47 PM

Damn man, you got some good size, if you cut up you will look awesome.
Big legs.

So, you want to cut right?

londonmuscle · 10-04-2007, 07:04 PM

Hi Scott
I lost bf earlier last year, everyone said I looked good (and I did). However I know I lost lean mass too. ****ed me off!
Looking to seriously loose bf and keep the mass.
Thanks for the feedcack Scott

londonmuscle · 10-04-2007, 07:04 PM

Hi Scott
I lost bf earlier last year, everyone said I looked good (and I did). However I know I lost lean mass too. ****ed me off!
Looking to seriously loose bf and keep the mass.
Thanks for the feedback Scott

**hackskii** · 10-04-2007, 07:56 PM

Well, I noticed this myself.
What I did wrong was I was too aggressive on my diet.
I was not using any gear and trying to drop like 2-3 lbs a week.
You can do that but not natural and certainly not at 47 years old with sub-par natural testosterone levels.

If you shoot for a more reasonable weekly weight loss you will lose less muscle.
Another factor is not enough protein.
Not doing resistance training is still another, but that does not look like you didnt resistance train.

How many pounds a week did you lose?

You could diet and take gear, this will avoid catabolism, hell you could always use HGH while dieting too.

Littleluke · 11-04-2007, 12:17 PM

Some serious size there, you're also carrying a fair bit off fat which will give the illusion of your arms being bigger etc so losing the fat will always make you feel like you've lost muscle but believe me mate you will look awesome.

I'd go for a strict diet, lots of protein and maybe some gear. As hacks said HGH would be good.

Borris · 11-04-2007, 06:37 PM

gear isnt the answer to everything....

nice clean diet is all he needs

looking thick dude, love the lats, and traps. keep lifting mate

whats your height and weight if u dont mind me asking?

Littleluke · 11-04-2007, 09:20 PM

I'm not saying it's the answer for eveything you nonce. You lose quite alot of mass when dieting though and gear can help prevent you going catabolic.

Borris · 11-04-2007, 09:27 PM

you can tell your ignorance by calling me a "nonce" and your ignorance towards steroids when you take them, and your no way ready to. just cause u wanna try to be one of the big lads. so keep your pathetic childish words to your self, u "nonce"

sorry to spoil your thread londonmuscle, to many children about thinking they know it all. hope your lifting well mate, and keep it up, your looking great

Littleluke · 12-04-2007, 10:55 AM

"nonce" was not aimed to be malicious towards you Borris. You obviously don't get the humour of the board. Children? Now isn't that a grown up comment to make! And ignorance to steroids? I've got stacks of research which I go through all of the time, I have planned my cycle, PCT ETC ETC ETC ETC. But to be honest I don't really need to justify myself to you. You're so far up your own "grown up ass" it's unreal mate. Lighten up.

Oh and I do want to be one of the big boys, but for competition not vanity, well maybe a little vanity

Five-O · 12-04-2007, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Littleluke

I'm not saying it's the answer for eveything you nonce. You lose quite alot of mass when dieting though and gear can help prevent you going catabolic.

if your calories and then macros etc are spot on then no-one should have to seriously worry about catobolism during dieting, I agree that AAS will obviously enable you to also gain a few lbs of lean mass whilst cutting but they arn't imperitive.

Littleluke · 12-04-2007, 12:08 PM

Yeh I agree completely agree Five-O but it's extremely difficult to be 100% perfect with a diet due to jobs etc.

06-04-2007, 01:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
Delhi Bigger, Better, Stronger Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: North Posts: 1,885	Re: looking for more definition Nice and big mate, but I agree you will look alot better when cut down. If you need help with diet there is a diet section on the board, have a look in there and if you cant find what you are looking for then ask.

06-04-2007, 02:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
Five-O aka Jimmy Join Date: May 2006 Location: Barnsley Posts: 3,554	Re: looking for more definition You need to figure out what calories you need everyday to keep you at the weight you are now, and then subtract 500 which should in theory help you drop the weight. Around a lb a week if natural. If you cycle then dropping the weight whilst retaining the muscle should be easier but its all down to diet and clean eating. meals need to be 6-7 per day region ideally. Must include a portion of protein in each one. Id go with 3 pro/carb meals and 3 pro/fat meals. Utilize udo's/flax oil/almonds for your fat sources. looking big, I agree, you'd look really good cut up. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-04-2007, 06:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
londonmuscle londonmuscle Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London Posts: 32	Re: looking for more definition Thanks for the tips guys! What's good for cutting?

10-04-2007, 06:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,149	Re: looking for more definition Damn man, you got some good size, if you cut up you will look awesome. Big legs. So, you want to cut right? __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-04-2007, 07:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
londonmuscle londonmuscle Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London Posts: 32	Re: looking for more definition Hi Scott I lost bf earlier last year, everyone said I looked good (and I did). However I know I lost lean mass too. ****ed me off! Looking to seriously loose bf and keep the mass. Thanks for the feedcack Scott

10-04-2007, 07:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
londonmuscle londonmuscle Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London Posts: 32	Re: looking for more definition Hi Scott I lost bf earlier last year, everyone said I looked good (and I did). However I know I lost lean mass too. ****ed me off! Looking to seriously loose bf and keep the mass. Thanks for the feedback Scott

10-04-2007, 07:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,149	Re: looking for more definition Well, I noticed this myself. What I did wrong was I was too aggressive on my diet. I was not using any gear and trying to drop like 2-3 lbs a week. You can do that but not natural and certainly not at 47 years old with sub-par natural testosterone levels. If you shoot for a more reasonable weekly weight loss you will lose less muscle. Another factor is not enough protein. Not doing resistance training is still another, but that does not look like you didnt resistance train. How many pounds a week did you lose? You could diet and take gear, this will avoid catabolism, hell you could always use HGH while dieting too. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

11-04-2007, 12:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
Littleluke Junior Bodybuilder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK. Posts: 3,006	Re: looking for more definition Some serious size there, you're also carrying a fair bit off fat which will give the illusion of your arms being bigger etc so losing the fat will always make you feel like you've lost muscle but believe me mate you will look awesome. I'd go for a strict diet, lots of protein and maybe some gear. As hacks said HGH would be good. __________________ Luke Bartram - Sponsored by BODITRONICS Enter uk-muscle1 as your coupon code when shopping at boditronics to recieve 30% off RRP. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. "I do it because I can, I can because I want to, I want to because you said I couldn't" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 2008 UKBFF South Coast - Runner Up 2008 Muscle Mayhem - 2nd place (qualified for NABBA Novice Britain)

11-04-2007, 06:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
Borris ★☆★★☆ Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 610	Re: looking for more definition gear isnt the answer to everything.... nice clean diet is all he needs looking thick dude, love the lats, and traps. keep lifting mate whats your height and weight if u dont mind me asking?

11-04-2007, 09:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
Littleluke Junior Bodybuilder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK. Posts: 3,006	Re: looking for more definition I'm not saying it's the answer for eveything you nonce. You lose quite alot of mass when dieting though and gear can help prevent you going catabolic. __________________ Luke Bartram - Sponsored by BODITRONICS Enter uk-muscle1 as your coupon code when shopping at boditronics to recieve 30% off RRP. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. "I do it because I can, I can because I want to, I want to because you said I couldn't" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 2008 UKBFF South Coast - Runner Up 2008 Muscle Mayhem - 2nd place (qualified for NABBA Novice Britain)

11-04-2007, 09:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
Borris ★☆★★☆ Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 610	Re: looking for more definition you can tell your ignorance by calling me a "nonce" and your ignorance towards steroids when you take them, and your no way ready to. just cause u wanna try to be one of the big lads. so keep your pathetic childish words to your self, u "nonce" sorry to spoil your thread londonmuscle, to many children about thinking they know it all. hope your lifting well mate, and keep it up, your looking great

12-04-2007, 10:55 AM	#13 (permalink)
Littleluke Junior Bodybuilder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK. Posts: 3,006	Re: looking for more definition "nonce" was not aimed to be malicious towards you Borris. You obviously don't get the humour of the board. Children? Now isn't that a grown up comment to make! And ignorance to steroids? I've got stacks of research which I go through all of the time, I have planned my cycle, PCT ETC ETC ETC ETC. But to be honest I don't really need to justify myself to you. You're so far up your own "grown up ass" it's unreal mate. Lighten up. Oh and I do want to be one of the big boys, but for competition not vanity, well maybe a little vanity __________________ Luke Bartram - Sponsored by BODITRONICS Enter uk-muscle1 as your coupon code when shopping at boditronics to recieve 30% off RRP. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. "I do it because I can, I can because I want to, I want to because you said I couldn't" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 2008 UKBFF South Coast - Runner Up 2008 Muscle Mayhem - 2nd place (qualified for NABBA Novice Britain)

12-04-2007, 12:08 PM	#15 (permalink)
Littleluke Junior Bodybuilder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK. Posts: 3,006	Re: looking for more definition Yeh I agree completely agree Five-O but it's extremely difficult to be 100% perfect with a diet due to jobs etc. __________________ Luke Bartram - Sponsored by BODITRONICS Enter uk-muscle1 as your coupon code when shopping at boditronics to recieve 30% off RRP. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. "I do it because I can, I can because I want to, I want to because you said I couldn't" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 2008 UKBFF South Coast - Runner Up 2008 Muscle Mayhem - 2nd place (qualified for NABBA Novice Britain)

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