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**Pscarb** · 05-03-2008, 11:31 PM

i would say it is better to add good fats like extra virgin olive oil or macadamia oil to leaner cuts of meat like fillet steak or chicken than it is to eat fatter meats exception being salmon....

**hackskii** · 06-03-2008, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Pscarb

i would say it is better to add good fats like extra virgin olive oil or macadamia oil to leaner cuts of meat like fillet steak or chicken than it is to eat fatter meats exception being salmon....

For dieting I would say totally....
For the lean guy I would say eat all the saturated fats you like........
Nothing builds strong bodies like fatty meat, not to mention it tasts killer.
Carnivore's can build an impressive body.
Strength is there, aggression is there.
For the most part the longer you are in the game the more modifications need to be addressed.
Getting old is a bitch..I gotta tell ya...........
But young dudes can bend the rules big time...............either way........

**Pscarb** · 06-03-2008, 09:42 AM

your as old as you feel mate

i agree that to many guys off season try to cut to much fat out of their diet in my opinion this is good for trans fats but saturated fats help produce testosterone although this is not an excuse to eat 300g of fat from McDonalds ever day

minisam · 07-03-2008, 12:40 AM

Hi guys,

Starting diet in monday ...

Getting good. Lost 8 kg in 4 days so far. Would say amazing. Aswell lost 3 inch on my belly.

Saturday comming, and I just wondering Paul if you could tell me what "type" of food I should eat in this 300g carbs in 1h. What you are eating?

I have to tell you so I cant eat that amount of food what you write in diet. Is that important to keep it like it is.

I'm doing 8 eggs in the morning (can I have couple teaspoons of mustardwith it?)

I have a peptide (1 Spoon with 250 ml of water - should I do 2 spoonswith 500ml?)

I have my chicken with romaine

And about 8pm I have an another chicken with peanuts/cashew

and about gettingtoday to 5 liters of water.

And believe me Im full ...

Taking Fatburn 2x day and creatine 1 a day (thats are producent limits)

I bought a Keto test and is showing Large 8 there next to it Large 16 which is max.

Thanks for your time ...

Polish Adam

**Pscarb** · 07-03-2008, 12:53 PM

the 1hr carb meal can be anything you want mate and to be honest do not worry about it being spot on the 300g mark...something like a pizza with ice cream for afters is ideal or a chines/indian...it is in their to stimulate your metabolism and it will work, yes you will gain a few pounds but this is water it is impossible to gain fat from one meal.....after a few days back on diet you will have lost all the water weight and your metabolism will be revved up to burn more fat...

minisam · 07-03-2008, 05:42 PM

Thank you Paul,

What about amount of food what Im eating now. Is less than i diet it is important?

**hackskii** · 07-03-2008, 08:17 PM

Mustard is just fine, also kills heartburn and cramps too....
I would consider some kelp in your diet to keep the thyroid revved up.
Keto diets can slow the thyroid down some.
If you can choose a carb to replenish glycogen stores I would choose whole grain brown rice.
Simple sugars can get blood sugars to spike and thus insulin will spike, not the best method for fat loss actually.

**Pscarb** · 07-03-2008, 11:36 PM

not the best for fatloss but the whole point to the carb meal once a week is to spike the metabolism which will in turn rev up the thyroid and nothing revs the metabolism like a good old pizza

**hackskii** · 07-03-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pscarb

not the best for fatloss but the whole point to the carb meal once a week is to spike the metabolism which will in turn rev up the thyroid and nothing revs the metabolism like a good old pizza

Oh man, pizza is the best. I am craving it so bad right now.
That is one food I just cant stop eating once I start.

**Pscarb** · 08-03-2008, 12:33 AM

you are craving it what about me

**hackskii** · 08-03-2008, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pscarb

you are craving it what about me

OMG, I had a pizza last night and it was soooo good.
BBQ chicken, oh man, I could not stop eating.
I gotta stop that stuff, woke up with some acid reflux from that little goodie.

bulkaholic · 08-03-2008, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pscarb

not the best for fatloss but the whole point to the carb meal once a week is to spike the metabolism which will in turn rev up the thyroid and nothing revs the metabolism like a good old pizza

Well the pizza part of this diet has sealed the deal for me:beer1:

I wanted a diet for a few weeks time for my cut and this looks good to me.

Will the weights you mention suit me at 103Kg and 20% BF?

Cheers

Colin

shamuk · 25-03-2008, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pscarb

i would again advocate a keto style diet i just put a freind on a diet just like this and he has lost 8lbs in the first week which the majority will be water but saying that yours will to.
it is pretty extreme and not for the faint hearted here it is..

Meal 1:
8 whole eggs

Meal 2:
Two scoops of pro peptide with 1 serving of natural peanut butter with water.

Meal 3:
8 oz. of lean meat with large bowl of romaine with 1 Tbsp flax/Olive oil and vinegar

Meal 4:
Two scoops of pro peptide with 1 serving of natural peanut butter with water.

Meal 5:
8 oz. lean meat with 1 serving of cashews/peanuts

Meal 6:
8 oz. lean meat with 1 serving of cashews/peanuts.

pick one day a week normally a sat for one Hour eat 300 g of carbs then back on the diet.

do 1 session of cardio in the morning before breakfast of 40min walking is best as any thing over 65% of max and you will burn carbs instead of fat.

take a fatburner 3x daily
take Clen at 80mcg per day 2 weeks on 2 weeks off...

this should drop a fair amount of weight this is extreme but you did say you wanted to do what it takes....fast..

Would normal whey protien be okay to take on this diet insted of pro-peptide?

its just that ive got my order today of 5kg impact whey protien, from myprotien.co.uk and cant really afford to go out and buy pro-peptide.

I really want to start this diet and get rid of my un-wanted bodyfat then start putting on some muscle in time for the summer.

I think Pscarb would be best to answer this as he was the one who created the diet, please let me know if you can because I plan to start tis diet in the morning,

thanks alot.

**Pscarb** · 25-03-2008, 07:46 PM

yes mate the stuff you got from MP is fine.....

shamuk · 25-03-2008, 08:09 PM

thanks Pscarb, I will start it tomorrow now

Also would it be okay or make a differance if I swaped the 8oz lean meat in meal 6 with 30-40g of un-flavoured Milk protien conentrate (mixed with water) as ill be having this about 9.30 at night and will be in bed shortly after, so it would digest slowly? I would still take the serving of nuts with this.

Or would I be better off sticking to the lean meat (probally chicken), what ever you think is best I will do, thanks agian.

05-03-2008, 11:31 PM	#106 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,963	Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed! i would say it is better to add good fats like extra virgin olive oil or macadamia oil to leaner cuts of meat like fillet steak or chicken than it is to eat fatter meats exception being salmon....

06-03-2008, 09:42 AM	#108 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,963	Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed! your as old as you feel mate i agree that to many guys off season try to cut to much fat out of their diet in my opinion this is good for trans fats but saturated fats help produce testosterone although this is not an excuse to eat 300g of fat from McDonalds ever day

07-03-2008, 12:40 AM	#109 (permalink)
minisam Pudzianowski Power Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 15	Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed! Hi guys, Starting diet in monday ... Getting good. Lost 8 kg in 4 days so far. Would say amazing. Aswell lost 3 inch on my belly. Saturday comming, and I just wondering Paul if you could tell me what "type" of food I should eat in this 300g carbs in 1h. What you are eating? I have to tell you so I cant eat that amount of food what you write in diet. Is that important to keep it like it is. I'm doing 8 eggs in the morning (can I have couple teaspoons of mustardwith it?) I have a peptide (1 Spoon with 250 ml of water - should I do 2 spoonswith 500ml?) I have my chicken with romaine And about 8pm I have an another chicken with peanuts/cashew and about gettingtoday to 5 liters of water. And believe me Im full ... Taking Fatburn 2x day and creatine 1 a day (thats are producent limits) I bought a Keto test and is showing Large 8 there next to it Large 16 which is max. Thanks for your time ... Polish Adam

07-03-2008, 12:53 PM	#110 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,963	Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed! the 1hr carb meal can be anything you want mate and to be honest do not worry about it being spot on the 300g mark...something like a pizza with ice cream for afters is ideal or a chines/indian...it is in their to stimulate your metabolism and it will work, yes you will gain a few pounds but this is water it is impossible to gain fat from one meal.....after a few days back on diet you will have lost all the water weight and your metabolism will be revved up to burn more fat...

07-03-2008, 05:42 PM	#111 (permalink)
minisam Pudzianowski Power Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 15	Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed! Thank you Paul, What about amount of food what Im eating now. Is less than i diet it is important?

07-03-2008, 08:17 PM	#112 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 24,337	Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed! Mustard is just fine, also kills heartburn and cramps too.... I would consider some kelp in your diet to keep the thyroid revved up. Keto diets can slow the thyroid down some. If you can choose a carb to replenish glycogen stores I would choose whole grain brown rice. Simple sugars can get blood sugars to spike and thus insulin will spike, not the best method for fat loss actually.

07-03-2008, 11:36 PM	#113 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,963	Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed! not the best for fatloss but the whole point to the carb meal once a week is to spike the metabolism which will in turn rev up the thyroid and nothing revs the metabolism like a good old pizza

08-03-2008, 12:33 AM	#115 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,963	Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed! you are craving it what about me

25-03-2008, 07:46 PM	#119 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,963	Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed! yes mate the stuff you got from MP is fine.....

25-03-2008, 08:09 PM	#120 (permalink)
shamuk Getting there! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stockport Posts: 63	Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed! thanks Pscarb, I will start it tomorrow now Also would it be okay or make a differance if I swaped the 8oz lean meat in meal 6 with 30-40g of un-flavoured Milk protien conentrate (mixed with water) as ill be having this about 9.30 at night and will be in bed shortly after, so it would digest slowly? I would still take the serving of nuts with this. Or would I be better off sticking to the lean meat (probally chicken), what ever you think is best I will do, thanks agian.

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