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Old 15-08-2008, 11:00 PM   #151 (permalink)
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

These are probably stupid questions but how much body fat can be lost? And how long should I stay on for?
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

that diet is not supposed to be a keto diet unfortunalt many think it is because of the lack of carbs....
the diet will work and work well although it is very hard to stick to....i do not advocate long term zero carb diets for guys who lift weights
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Old 15-08-2008, 11:41 PM   #153 (permalink)
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

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Hackskii do I not need a post work out shake straight after gym? How long should I stay on the diet? Will the fat return after diet? I've heard from guys in work that they put weight/fat back on after they were on the atkins, but they never trained I suppose!
Well, there are two reasons for doing the PWO shake, that is to replenish glycogen stores (which we are not gonna do here), and to replenish the protein for recovery.
But, beings that whey by itself spikes insulin to some degree, we want to keep the ketones working so I would rather you eat some hard boiled eggs or something.
Grab some fatty meat, what ever, but you wont need a shake on a keto diet as the priority is not proteins but fats.
Too much protein will actually or can kick you out of ketosis.

Just read a great article today on keto diets and feeling of well being.
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Old 16-08-2008, 12:13 PM   #154 (permalink)
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

Thanks Pscarb and Hackskii I'm gonna shelve the Extreme build & recover for a while until I come off this diet. Im going to supermarket today to get the weeks food which will be Fish, Pork, Turkey, Bacon, Steak for lean meat, Cabbage, Spinach, Broccoli, Lettuce & Spring Onions and plenty of eggs. NO Bread, rice, pasta or potatoes! Does this look ok? I want to start on monday!
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

Yes, that looks fine.....
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Old 16-08-2008, 06:49 PM   #156 (permalink)
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

Thanks Hackskii mate. Does anyone know were I can buy the strips to test when im in ketosis?
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

Boots? ketostix mine are called! Can more than likely get them cheaper online.
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Old 16-08-2008, 07:20 PM   #158 (permalink)
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

Thanks adesign, i'll hit boots tomorrow. How much are they and how many do u get?
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

I think I paid ~£10 and I believe I got 30 strips! For a while I was using two a day as it was always on my mind. Now I check once or twice a week. Note that you dont have to turn them ultra dark for you to be in ketosis. Trace amounts are sufficient I believe!
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

Ok thanks mate, I'll get them tomorrow and start on monday!
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

Hi guys I am going to start this diet below suggested by paul tomorrow. I plan to do the diet for 6 weeks as he has suggested then onto carb cycling. I just have a few more questions before I start.

Meal 1:
8 whole eggs

Meal 2:
Two scoops of Extreme Protein with 1 serving of natural peanut butter with water.

Meal 3:
8 oz. of lean meat with large bowl of green salad with 1 Tbsp flax/Olive oil and vinegar

Meal 4:
Two scoops of Extreme Protein with 1 serving of natural peanut butter with water.

Meal 5:
8 oz. lean meat with 1 serving of cashews/peanuts

Meal 6:
8 oz. lean meat with 1 serving of cashews/peanuts.

pick one day a week normally a sat for one Hour eat 300 g of carbs then back on the diet.

do 1 session of cardio in the morning before breakfast of 40min walking is best as any thing over 65% of max and you will burn carbs instead of fat.

take a fatburner 3x daily
take Clen at 80mcg per day 2 weeks on 2 weeks off...

this should drop a fair amount of weight this is extreme but you did say you wanted to do what it takes....fast..[/quote]

1. After the 6 weeks keto diet will the lost body fat return? this might sound stupid but I know other guys from work who have done an atkins diet and the body fat returned.
2. Can a sauce of some sort be added to the meat? i.e Nandos etc
3. Is there a limit to the green veg or salad that can be taken?
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

iS TEA OR COFFEE ALLOWED ON THIS DIET?
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

Diet seems okay to me but a bit to much whey shakes imo. Might of been stated here already but too much protein will slow down/prevent the body from entering ketosis. I dont think you need the clen either mate. Maybe add that in when you get to lower bf% figures and hit a stalling point even then I think it would be best to get over it some other way.

Theres always a limit to the amount of food you can eat, unless its something that takes up more cals to eat than it contains! I do what Hackskii does and just grab a handful.

I have 3 cups of coffee a day with no sugar or alike. Its good for weight loss and helps fuel work out sessions. I would have green tea as it also aids weight loss. Normal tea should be fine with no sugars etc but go easy on the milk.
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

Yah, drop the shakes, the priority is on fats not protein for a keto diet, too many shakes can result in kicking out out of ketosis, which is the whole point of being in ketosis.
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