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Old 15-08-2008, 10:27 AM   #136 (permalink)
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

no keto diet should not increase cholesterol if you choose good fats..

as for the cardio issue yes HIIT cardio will burn more calories but these calories will be more from glycogen than fat, moderate cardio will tap more into the fat reserves than HIIT whilst preserving muscle...i have done both types and found Moderate cardio the better of the two.
the rate is 65-75%
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Old 15-08-2008, 01:20 PM   #137 (permalink)
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

I take it the keto is a quick way of burning the fat?
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Old 15-08-2008, 01:40 PM   #138 (permalink)
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

I really wanna give this a go, sounds the solution for me
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

Could anyone give me any advice on this diet? Where can you buy the strips?
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Old 15-08-2008, 06:35 PM   #140 (permalink)
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

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does the keto diet increase cholesterol?
No, it actually lowers it...............
Remember fat is a priority for fuel on a keto diet, all fats get targeted for fuel, even the ones in the blood.
Keto diets in the beginning benefit lipid profiles, long term maybe something diffrent but initially it improves cholesterol profiles.

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Old 15-08-2008, 06:49 PM   #141 (permalink)
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No, it actually lowers it...............
Remember fat is a priority for fuel on a keto diet, all fats get targeted for fuel, even the ones in the blood.
Keto diets in the beginning benefit lipid profiles, long term maybe something diffrent but initially it improves cholesterol profiles.
Excellent Hackskii. I think i'm gonna go with what pscarb diet below, but could it be tweeked a bit here and there?

Meal 1:
8 whole eggs Can these be done in omelete with say ham, tomato, onion or cheese? could I start off with 6 instead of 8?

Meal 2:
Two scoops of Extreme Protein with 1 serving of natural peanut butter with water. I just bought Extreme Build & Recover would that do instead of Extreme Protein? If not I can get the protein

Meal 3:
8 oz. of lean meat with large bowl of green salad with 1 Tbsp flax/Olive oil and vinegar Would Lettuce, Scallions and cucumber be ok for green salad? Could tomato be added?

Meal 4:
Two scoops of Extreme Protein with 1 serving of natural peanut butter with water.

Meal 5:
8 oz. lean meat with 1 serving of cashews/peanuts Would a handful of cashews/peanuts be classed as a serving?

Meal 6:
8 oz. lean meat with 1 serving of cashews/peanuts.

pick one day a week normally a sat for one Hour eat 300 g of carbs then back on the diet. 1 cheat meal a week, would Indian food be ok?

do 1 session of cardio in the morning before breakfast of 40min walking is best as any thing over 65% of max and you will burn carbs instead of fat.

I havent got any fatburner yet, What is the best option ECA, Clen or t3/4?

Where is best to buy ketosis strips?
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Old 15-08-2008, 07:19 PM   #142 (permalink)
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

Any ideas guys on the above diet and questions?
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Old 15-08-2008, 07:45 PM   #143 (permalink)
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

All that stuff is fine but I do see one flaw in your design of the keto diet.
It is not protein that is the main staple, it is actually fats.
Drop the protein shakes and eat foods, this will work better anyway for dieting as the meat will take longer to digest than the shakes, you will feel more satisfied too.

Be carefull with the nuts, they can tip you over the edge on too many carbs on a keto diet, choose macadamia nuts, they are the highest in fat, lowest in carbs.

Vegetables are cool, just carefull of not eating too many of the calorie dense ones, green ones would be great.
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

The Extreme Build and Recover contains Dextrose which would be a no-no mate. Better off with a pure whey if you are adamant on using them, and mixed in water, not milk. As a guide I took in 40g of carbs a day. Had to drop the cashews (as hackskii rightly points out) they kept me out of ketosis and at times uncomfotably bloated.

Tomatoes, SHOULD be OK, but if you find you're not hitting a ketosis state after 3 or four days, these could be the culprits.

The only 'veg' I've been using was a large handful of green leaves like spinach, or some florets of brocolli.

This is what I found, you may be less sensitive to carb intake than me.
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

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All that stuff is fine but I do see one flaw in your design of the keto diet.
It is not protein that is the main staple, it is actually fats.
Drop the protein shakes and eat foods, this will work better anyway for dieting as the meat will take longer to digest than the shakes, you will feel more satisfied too.

Be carefull with the nuts, they can tip you over the edge on too many carbs on a keto diet, choose macadamia nuts, they are the highest in fat, lowest in carbs.

Vegetables are cool, just carefull of not eating too many of the calorie dense ones, green ones would be great.
The only reason I was saying protein shake was because it was in the original post. What about after training should I not take a shake then? As for the nuts I've never had macadamia before. I am going to start this on monday and put my log on the forum. Would it be still ok to do heavy weights mon,wed,fri and football tues,thurs,sat? the football sessions are quite hard.
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The Extreme Build and Recover contains Dextrose which would be a no-no mate. Better off with a pure whey if you are adamant on using them, and mixed in water, not milk. As a guide I took in 40g of carbs a day. Had to drop the cashews (as hackskii rightly points out) they kept me out of ketosis and at times uncomfotably bloated.

Tomatoes, SHOULD be OK, but if you find you're not hitting a ketosis state after 3 or four days, these could be the culprits.

The only 'veg' I've been using was a large handful of green leaves like spinach, or some florets of brocolli.

This is what I found, you may be less sensitive to carb intake than me.
Could I have brocoli, cabbage or spinach with the lean meat? How long were u on the keto diet mate? did you get good results?
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Could I have brocoli, cabbage or spinach with the lean meat? How long were u on the keto diet mate? did you get good results?
This is my second week, I'm down around 8lb but the first week was a lot of trial and error.

Well, error really.

Yes those veg are fine, but stick with small amounts....
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

Yah, just eat whole foods, vegetables like broccoli, spinish, asparagus, green beans are all ok, keep the fats high and the protein moderate, after all too much protein will kick out out of ketosis, just like carbs.
Try to keep the carbs under 30 grams to get into ketosis.

Eggs, chease are just fine on a keto diet.
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This is my second week, I'm down around 8lb but the first week was a lot of trial and error.

Well, error really.

Yes those veg are fine, but stick with small amounts....
How long do you plan to stay on the keto diet? where do u get the the strips?
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Re: Big, PSCarb & other diet experts... advice needed!

Hackskii do I not need a post work out shake straight after gym? How long should I stay on the diet? Will the fat return after diet? I've heard from guys in work that they put weight/fat back on after they were on the atkins, but they never trained I suppose!
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