Ironman

Hey everyone,

I m hoping for some advise -

This is where I am right now -

Just coming to my first cycle after over a year off (was trying for a baby) Cycle included 4 ml deca/week 1ml sust per week. course lasted 14 weeks - the 1st 4 weeks i put in 20 mg dbol per day - and along the way 10 ml of tren went in. im currently putting in 2500 hcg every 5 days and will soon start nolvedex/day help bring back test levels.

I started the course at 16/5 st after a month shot up to 17/5 st, though I was carrying alot of bf. So I deceided to diet down a bit since I was looking ****.

I was eating everytrhing in site but I controled it down to the following

4 50g protien shakes a day - 800c
1 bagel or bowl of oatmeal - 250c
1 egg 4 whites - 200c
400gr of rice - 656c
400gr chicken or steak - 7 - 800c
3 oranges - 150
some salad stuff
vegetables
vits mins etc

total 3000 max

with this I was trying to keep protien high while keeping carbs down.
It worked and Im now down to 16st 13, and looking alot leaner - im not after shredded as im not competing.
Dieting is my week point, do you think my approach was correct? Would anyone have done it differently?

Also how long would you stay off for - in the past, for me there was no real off time except for the odd week or two. But now im after doing things properly.

When im off - should I train / eat differently - I usualy just train the same and eat the same.

My next cycle I plan to do a similar course but increase the the test and deca. I want to put on decent size without to much bodyfat - How many calories should I aim to eat per day - and will this just include clean food?

I know im asking alot of questions but any help and or advise would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

Tim

Pscarb

You will get many diffrent answers to that question but to be honest this seems to be working for you so keep the same protocol running but i would just change the amounts.
you are 237lbs and for that weight you should be eating approx 335g of protein.
because you are wanting to control fat then i would suggest eating 150g of Carbs per day.
Keep the cals up though by eating good fats from Salmon, Advacado, Mackeral, Nuts/Seeds, Olive oil approx 75-100g per day

I would normally stay off for at least half of the time you was on the cycle any longer than that is down to personell preference.

train the same you will lose a little strength but keep the reps the same and adjust the weight accordingly.
when on AAS you really should be pushing 2g per lb of bodyweight of protein per day and depending on your bodytype and goals then i would suggest between 1-2g of carbs per lb of bodyweight then adjust the fats accordingly.
When off a cycle then you can afford to drop the protein to 1-1.5g per lb of bodyweight as protein assimulation will not be the same as when on a cycle and as i have said then raise or lower you carbs/fats accordingly according to your goals.

again this will depend on your bodyweight when you start your next cycle but use the examples i have detailed above for clean food then depending on your metabolism you can eat junk food on top of that.

if you don't ask you will not learn mate the only stupid question is the one that is not asked...