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Old 19-01-2005, 02:53 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I ASSUME I AM MISSING SOMETHING HERE, HAVE SOME OF YOU FALLEN OUT WITH EACH OTHER LOL
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Old 19-01-2005, 04:17 PM   #17 (permalink)
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LOL.....That would be a bit hard as missus works nights.

OK how about this, ive changed my training to monday, wednesday and friday so if i do cardio lets say tuesday, thursday and saturdays at around 6pm would this be better.

As i do not do cardio anyway surley something is better than nothing.

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How ever many calories you burn doing cardio, is that many calories off of your caloric intake for the day. So yes any cardio is better than no cardio when trying to loose bodyfat. Also it helps move the stuff through your intestins.
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Old 19-01-2005, 05:09 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I ASSUME I AM MISSING SOMETHING HERE, HAVE SOME OF YOU FALLEN OUT WITH EACH OTHER LOL
not at all mate

we are just all very familliar with each other and sometimes get a little cheeky
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Old 19-01-2005, 05:32 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Falling out

Nah, Jimmy is blown out.
Too many men sets and not enough time in between for healing.
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truth be known cardio is cardio doing some no matter what time you do it is better than doing non at all...

there are just better times to do cardio...
the best (imo) is first thing in the morning on an empty stomach 45min walking at a decent pace with an incline..

the 2nd best being PWO when you have just used all of your available carbs for weights so your cardio can tap into your fat stores for energy...

the 3rd being approx 60min after your last meal which when your trying to lose fat shouldnt be that much after 8pm

you have loads of substances that will help the process(Caffeine/ECA..etc..etc) but the main rule is just do cardio no matter what time..

in my opinion anything less than 30min is a waste of time as your body only taps into your fat stores after 20min....
also something else to bear in mind your body is not only in Fat burning mode for the time you are doing cardio it is also in fat burning mode for a further 3x time doing cardio(40min cardio = 120min post cardio fat burning)

this is only my opinion....
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Old 20-01-2005, 03:14 AM   #23 (permalink)
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approx 60min after your last meal which when your trying to lose fat shouldnt be that much after 8pm

you have loads of substances that will help the process(Caffeine/ECA..etc..etc) but the main rule is just do cardio no matter what time..




this makes sense to me but i am doing the chef x cutting diet which means at 9 - 10pm i am eating a small meal of meat, broccali, and one of the following....pasta or rice or potatoes, but this is a very small meal like 5 spoonfulls so whats the right thing to do.

I allways thought i shouldnt eat after 8pm but started to get cravings, then some one advised me to eat between 9-10pm and then i found this diet and again it says ear between 9-10pm so i am confussed.
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ok i am not going to tell you to drop that meal as ChefX knows what he is talking about when it comes to dieting but we all have our own way and i would say no to eating Carbs after 8.00pm you could have a whey drink just before bed mixed in water if you want to......

i am sure ChefX would agree that his diet can be custamised to the individual if you feel that this is the only time you can do cardio(at night) and you don't want to be doing it after 10.00pm at night then you must make the decision what path to take.....
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Old 20-01-2005, 03:17 PM   #26 (permalink)
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ok thanks again, would 3 cardio sessions of around 30 minutes each on my non training days be better, at say 6pm, i would have eaten at 4pm, have a whey shake after the cardio and then eat again at 7pm. IS THIS A BETTER OPTION AND STILL KEEP THE 9-10PM MEAL. TO BE HONEST WEATHER I SHOULD HAVE THIS MEAL OR NOT IT DOES STOP ME CRAVING FOOD AT NIGHT THAT I SHOULDNT BE EATING LIKE CRISPS OR SOMETHING SO IT PROBALLY MAKES SENSE TO KEEP THE LATE MEAL IN FOR ME ANYWAY. i HAVE MY FIRST WEIGH IN IN THE MORNING AFTER MY FIRST WEEK ON CHEF X SO MAYBE THAT WILL DECIDE WHAT I DO

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you can do the cardio on non training days i would increase to 40min though...
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truth be known cardio is cardio doing some no matter what time you do it is better than doing non at all...

there are just better times to do cardio...
the best (imo) is first thing in the morning on an empty stomach 45min walking at a decent pace with an incline..

the 2nd best being PWO when you have just used all of your available carbs for weights so your cardio can tap into your fat stores for energy...

the 3rd being approx 60min after your last meal which when your trying to lose fat shouldnt be that much after 8pm

you have loads of substances that will help the process(Caffeine/ECA..etc..etc) but the main rule is just do cardio no matter what time..

in my opinion anything less than 30min is a waste of time as your body only taps into your fat stores after 20min....
also something else to bear in mind your body is not only in Fat burning mode for the time you are doing cardio it is also in fat burning mode for a further 3x time doing cardio(40min cardio = 120min post cardio fat burning)

this is only my opinion....
I agree with some of this. I usually do my cardio first thing in the morning on an empty stomach and i find this seems to set my metabolism off nicely. I have a 30min->40min jog at a fast pace and I end up buzzing all morning and my body temp is higher than usual. A sort of similar effect to as if id just taken some ECA.

I wouldnt do cardio just after my workout as im so knackered by then i just wouldnt have the energy or strength to do any cardio. As a result i always try to do my cardio on non-weights days to ensure i have maximum energy for my workout and give me change to recover fully from my cardio session.

The "body only burns fat after 20mins of cardio" is something ive heard quite a few times and may well be scientifically proven. But, in practise ive not found this. If i only do cardio for 20mins it certainly will burn loads of fat off me!!! I think its more linked to how hard you do the cardio. If your only going to mince along at a slow pace then after 30mins its not going to have much of an effect, but if your running like your a rapist on the run, then i think 30mins will nearly kill you and certainly start shifting that fat!
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Old 21-01-2005, 03:38 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I am only managing to do 30 min on an stationary cycle at the moment but i do sweat like a pig lol so i assume this is doing me some good.......


Its my legs that suffer more than me not being able to get my breath, i have only just started working on my legs as i have never done legs before so i assume these are just week.
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Yep, your legs will hurt if your not used to using them. Not to mention your backside will really ache if your not use to sitting on a bike seat for 30mins. lol. You dont have to do just cycling though, the treadmill, or jogging on the street are also good.

At the moment im splitting my cardio between stationary cycle & the heavy punchbag. Spending 5mins hard work on each, alternating between the 2 for about 45mins.
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