losing and gaining? - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

jas uk · 09-12-2004, 03:31 PM

Been dieting for 3-4 weeks and haven't lost any weight,is it possible for me to gain muscle and lose fat as I'm still quite new (little belly on me anyway)muscles seem bigger so I'm defo growing but surely that would put weight on and I'm staying the same so I thought I must be losing fat or water.
anyone got an answer?
cheers
jas

winger · 09-12-2004, 03:53 PM

The only way to tell is to check your bodyfat percent. If your weight is the same then how much muscle do you think you can pack on?

**robdog** · 09-12-2004, 04:05 PM

I think you can mate. My weight has dropped alot but i have still been gaining muscle.

If your diet is right it can be done mate.

jas uk · 09-12-2004, 04:22 PM

So winger what you are saying (I think ) is that you can lose fat faster than you can build muscle?so I should be still losing a little if say losing a pound a week,meaning I can't put a pound of muscle in the same time.

**big** · 09-12-2004, 06:11 PM

You need to check your bodyfat levels to know for sure. Nobody can say for sure otherwise. What are your diet and stats? Are you sure you're not just maintaining?

jas uk · 09-12-2004, 07:48 PM

3 eggs 1 toast
3eggs 1 bacon
banana
200g chichen salad cream
spag bog 200g mince 50g pasta
100g chicken
drinking 2l squash sugar free

training 4 days
chest /tris
back/bis
shoulders
legs

**big** · 09-12-2004, 07:52 PM

What about your stats? How many cals/day total are you eating, and how are you splitting those meals up? Bacon, toast and salad cream should be dropped at first glance. You also need some, albeit small, amounts of carbs throughout the day.

**hackskii** · 09-12-2004, 10:08 PM

Well, you wont be able to build a pound of muscle a week.
You can lose between 1 to 1.5 lbs of fat a week.
Dieting you will lose some lean muscle mass but this can be minimised with exercise/weight lifting and keeping your protein at about 150 grams a day.

Either you are not dropping enough from your maintenance calories or you are eating foods that spike insulin and are storing that.

Eat each meal with a protein, fat, and a carb in it. Dont eat over 500 calories a sitting as this will raise blood sugars too and raise insulin.
Smaller meals and eating them more frequently will help with blood sugar levels being more stable.

Chromium helps to keep blood sugar levels stable.
Vanadium will help with sugar cravings.
Chickweed is a herb used in weight loss.
You can up the fiber too and this is good for dieting and slowing down absorption of the food leaving the stomach.
ZMA at bedtime wont hurt either.

jas uk · 10-12-2004, 05:25 PM

thanks will try cutting abit and do some re-arrranging might get one of those body fat readers aswell.

09-12-2004, 03:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
jas uk Newbie Trainer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 87	losing and gaining? Been dieting for 3-4 weeks and haven't lost any weight,is it possible for me to gain muscle and lose fat as I'm still quite new (little belly on me anyway)muscles seem bigger so I'm defo growing but surely that would put weight on and I'm staying the same so I thought I must be losing fat or water. anyone got an answer? cheers jas

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jas uk Newbie Trainer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 87	diet 3 eggs 1 toast 3eggs 1 bacon banana 200g chichen salad cream spag bog 200g mince 50g pasta 100g chicken drinking 2l squash sugar free training 4 days chest /tris back/bis shoulders legs

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hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,717	Well, you wont be able to build a pound of muscle a week. You can lose between 1 to 1.5 lbs of fat a week. Dieting you will lose some lean muscle mass but this can be minimised with exercise/weight lifting and keeping your protein at about 150 grams a day. Either you are not dropping enough from your maintenance calories or you are eating foods that spike insulin and are storing that. Eat each meal with a protein, fat, and a carb in it. Dont eat over 500 calories a sitting as this will raise blood sugars too and raise insulin. Smaller meals and eating them more frequently will help with blood sugar levels being more stable. Chromium helps to keep blood sugar levels stable. Vanadium will help with sugar cravings. Chickweed is a herb used in weight loss. You can up the fiber too and this is good for dieting and slowing down absorption of the food leaving the stomach. ZMA at bedtime wont hurt either. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by hackskii; 09-12-2004 at 10:12 PM.

09-12-2004, 04:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
jas uk Newbie Trainer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 87	So winger what you are saying (I think ) is that you can lose fat faster than you can build muscle?so I should be still losing a little if say losing a pound a week,meaning I can't put a pound of muscle in the same time.

09-12-2004, 06:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
big UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The only side effect of steroids is GREATNESS Posts: 5,453	You need to check your bodyfat levels to know for sure. Nobody can say for sure otherwise. What are your diet and stats? Are you sure you're not just maintaining?

09-12-2004, 07:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
big UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The only side effect of steroids is GREATNESS Posts: 5,453	What about your stats? How many cals/day total are you eating, and how are you splitting those meals up? Bacon, toast and salad cream should be dropped at first glance. You also need some, albeit small, amounts of carbs throughout the day.

10-12-2004, 05:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
jas uk Newbie Trainer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 87	thanks will try cutting abit and do some re-arrranging might get one of those body fat readers aswell.