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winger · 05-12-2004, 08:25 PM

How big was your doses before?

TYSON · 05-12-2004, 09:14 PM

That would be hard to say now as i was 21 at the time im 34 now. But what i remember was i purchased a book called the Laymans guide to steriods, its not the book advertised on here today it came as a stapled type book with many pages and about A4 size. For those who have been training for many years may remember this book.

Any way it had recomended dosages listed and i used to use 4-5 times the daily recomended dosage. STUPID i know but i was young and wanted to be big as i worked on the doors at the time. I was one of those at that age who didnt want to reach 30 years old as this seemed old and i only lived for the day i was in.

Like i say this was stupid and i hope younger people on this forum might see this and learn because if i didnt end up inside which put a stop to my steriod and training i beleive i would be dead now.

Sorry going on a bit here and going away from the original thread issue.

Winger do you also agree i should diet first as i am looking to bulk up at the end of the day my bf is 33 which aint good i know.

**hackskii** · 05-12-2004, 09:16 PM

Is your body fat 33% right now?

TYSON · 05-12-2004, 09:18 PM

yes m8 ive left a reply on the rage issue for you , bit dissapointed as you seem a good guy and have help me out

TYSON · 05-12-2004, 09:25 PM

Because i still hold muscle from years ago is this an accurate % as i know muscle weighs more than fat, i am only overweight around the mid section arms and chest still fairly solid ?

**hackskii** · 05-12-2004, 09:47 PM

I for sure would diet down first.
The waist will be the last to go as this is where you store most of your bodyfat.
First place will be your face and neck.
I doubt you are 33% its more like probably 21-25% and not higher. I have seen a guy at 33% and he had no muscle tone what so ever and looked a bit rolly polly.

Now tyson, Im not calling you rolly polly so dont take that to heart, This was refrencing somebody else and i doubt you are as high as you think.

Diet down first, then put back the weight. Dont worry you wont get as fat as you are right now. You want to stick to about a lb a week fat loss maybe even 1.5 lbs but no more. After that you can pack on some muscle and get to the size/weight you are looking for.

You actually can pack back the weight on cycle if you want this will totally accellerate that for you.

TYSON · 05-12-2004, 10:03 PM

Have to agree looking at myself i thought 33 was high.....i would say 20%-25% but then i would wouldnt i lol. Ok will start the new diet in the morning but any advise still welcome.

**hackskii** · 05-12-2004, 11:33 PM

Hey Tyson, dont be so hard on yourself buddy.
Just make realistic goals and you will get there one day at a time.
Its not that hard and just keep it simple.

winger · 06-12-2004, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TYSON

Winger do you also agree i should diet first as i am looking to bulk up at the end of the day my bf is 33 which aint good i know.

Diet down mate. I need to so we are in the same boat. Diet is very simple but take allot of dedication. Pm me and I will square it up for you. Jimmy, One Smart Cookie, hackskii, all of us can help you. Get lean first and then lets go from there. Oh by the way, I used to box myself. Pro trainer too. It was the best I ever looked. Imagine all the caloried that you burn using arms and legs..........awsome.

TYSON · 06-12-2004, 12:04 PM

Thanks Winger, you could be very helpfull to me in the future as are all of you. All help appreciated and will see how i get on for 2 weeks.

DB · 06-12-2004, 12:29 PM

good luck tyson, agree with the above diet down and go from there

TYSON · 06-12-2004, 03:58 PM

Cheers m8, one problem though, i am struggling to eat in the morning as im not hungry and on top of that the porridge isnt appeling. I assume i cant have sugar so any tips on perking up the oats, its bad enough its like cardboard but when you aint hungry as well its hell lol.....

winger · 06-12-2004, 04:07 PM

Tyson you have to eat breakfast, if reves up the machine. You could use estevia, it is a natural sweetner.

TYSON · 06-12-2004, 04:14 PM

Will do, is that the full name and is it available in normall run of the mill shops. Sorry its just ive never heard of it but any thing will help

powerU · 06-12-2004, 04:19 PM

stir in some flavoured whey after you make the porridge (don't heat the whey), or blend the oats with eggs then make pancakes.

06-12-2004, 12:29 PM	#26 (permalink)
DB UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SW London Posts: 11,762	good luck tyson, agree with the above diet down and go from there __________________ Affiliate of Bulk Supplements Direct Discount Code= BSD290 UKBFF southcoast 2008, O80kg Champion

05-12-2004, 08:25 PM	#16 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,402 Blog Entries: 1	How big was your doses before?

05-12-2004, 09:14 PM	#17 (permalink)
TYSON Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK (Bedfordshire) Posts: 731	That would be hard to say now as i was 21 at the time im 34 now. But what i remember was i purchased a book called the Laymans guide to steriods, its not the book advertised on here today it came as a stapled type book with many pages and about A4 size. For those who have been training for many years may remember this book. Any way it had recomended dosages listed and i used to use 4-5 times the daily recomended dosage. STUPID i know but i was young and wanted to be big as i worked on the doors at the time. I was one of those at that age who didnt want to reach 30 years old as this seemed old and i only lived for the day i was in. Like i say this was stupid and i hope younger people on this forum might see this and learn because if i didnt end up inside which put a stop to my steriod and training i beleive i would be dead now. Sorry going on a bit here and going away from the original thread issue. Winger do you also agree i should diet first as i am looking to bulk up at the end of the day my bf is 33 which aint good i know.

05-12-2004, 09:16 PM	#18 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 24,337	Is your body fat 33% right now?

05-12-2004, 09:18 PM	#19 (permalink)
TYSON Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK (Bedfordshire) Posts: 731	yes m8 ive left a reply on the rage issue for you , bit dissapointed as you seem a good guy and have help me out

05-12-2004, 09:25 PM	#20 (permalink)
TYSON Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK (Bedfordshire) Posts: 731	Because i still hold muscle from years ago is this an accurate % as i know muscle weighs more than fat, i am only overweight around the mid section arms and chest still fairly solid ?

05-12-2004, 09:47 PM	#21 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 24,337	I for sure would diet down first. The waist will be the last to go as this is where you store most of your bodyfat. First place will be your face and neck. I doubt you are 33% its more like probably 21-25% and not higher. I have seen a guy at 33% and he had no muscle tone what so ever and looked a bit rolly polly. Now tyson, Im not calling you rolly polly so dont take that to heart, This was refrencing somebody else and i doubt you are as high as you think. Diet down first, then put back the weight. Dont worry you wont get as fat as you are right now. You want to stick to about a lb a week fat loss maybe even 1.5 lbs but no more. After that you can pack on some muscle and get to the size/weight you are looking for. You actually can pack back the weight on cycle if you want this will totally accellerate that for you.

05-12-2004, 10:03 PM	#22 (permalink)
TYSON Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK (Bedfordshire) Posts: 731	Have to agree looking at myself i thought 33 was high.....i would say 20%-25% but then i would wouldnt i lol. Ok will start the new diet in the morning but any advise still welcome.

05-12-2004, 11:33 PM	#23 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 24,337	Hey Tyson, dont be so hard on yourself buddy. Just make realistic goals and you will get there one day at a time. Its not that hard and just keep it simple.

06-12-2004, 12:04 PM	#25 (permalink)
TYSON Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK (Bedfordshire) Posts: 731	Thanks Winger, you could be very helpfull to me in the future as are all of you. All help appreciated and will see how i get on for 2 weeks.

06-12-2004, 03:58 PM	#27 (permalink)
TYSON Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK (Bedfordshire) Posts: 731	Cheers m8, one problem though, i am struggling to eat in the morning as im not hungry and on top of that the porridge isnt appeling. I assume i cant have sugar so any tips on perking up the oats, its bad enough its like cardboard but when you aint hungry as well its hell lol.....

06-12-2004, 04:07 PM	#28 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,402 Blog Entries: 1	Tyson you have to eat breakfast, if reves up the machine. You could use estevia, it is a natural sweetner.

06-12-2004, 04:14 PM	#29 (permalink)
TYSON Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK (Bedfordshire) Posts: 731	Will do, is that the full name and is it available in normall run of the mill shops. Sorry its just ive never heard of it but any thing will help

06-12-2004, 04:19 PM	#30 (permalink)
powerU Getting HUGE! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1,141	stir in some flavoured whey after you make the porridge (don't heat the whey), or blend the oats with eggs then make pancakes.