Lost Soul

Pork is loaded though?

http://www.jifsan.umd.edu/presentati...e_in_foods.pdf

Tinytom

Thats a percetage of free aminos.

Pork protein yield is very low compared to chicken.

you'd have to eat a lot of bacon to get 5g of glutamine. Better off just having a few glutamine caps

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Lost Soul

Tom what are you basing that on mate?

romper stomper

Oh great stuff woody once again in total ore of youy fantastic great acheivements.


your da man !!!!

trickymicky69

i say well done for posting up your log. it takes some balls to post it up for all and sundry to pick apart and digest every minute detail no matter how small their brains are!

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irwit

Bacon and pork scratchings every day? Personally I think you are letting the science of a keto diet cloud your common sence, bacon every mornin, frankfurters, pork scratchings etc. I know your goal is to lose fat but if you could lose fat from getting a knife and cutting bits off, yes you'd lose fat but its not good for your overall health really is it. Extreme example but you know what I mean.

Anyway, seems like you are being quite strict and doing well. I did keto for a month, was good but didnt see it as a long term diet. Did lose noticable BF though and felt really good when on it.

Any reason you aren't including coconut milk in your diet ? was on of my fav ingrediants when in keto.

Tinytom

Bacon is 12-13g of Protein per 100

Chicken is 23g

TBH Im sure you can find an article saying how pork is the greatest meat ever but there is more anecdotal and documented evidence of Chicken and Steak being a better meat nutrition wise.

If you had Pure Clean pork then you get a yield of 20g per 100 but its still not as good as the others.

Anyway what we are talking about here is bacon which is no way the same as a cut of belly pork.

Theres a place for every meat in a diet in its purer form but can you really argue that a beef burger is the same as a steak or chicken nuggets are the same as a chicken breast?

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Slamdog

just as a sideline Tom, would you rate turkey better than chicken?

Lost Soul

I get you tom...you are saying processed bacon rather than pork?

Tinytom

LS - exactly. Meat in its purist form is always the best but not many will ever buy real cuts of pork as this is very expensive. Same as Fillet Steak is hardly ever the staple diet of bbers who have to settle for sirloin or rump or steak mince.

Slamdog - I would rate them equal from a nutrition point of view although Turkey has more zinc in it I believe. However turkey is a drier meat and I normally reserve it for the last 3 weeks before a show as it seems to help me harden up more.

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Lost Soul

cool tom as bacon back is great

Lost Soul

Unless you are playing scrabble i would say either or mate..its more about the cut and added sodium than anything

Slamdog

cheers guys...

i was under the impression that turkey was a fair bit lower in fat and slightly higher in protein but not by much.

but a bit cheaper than chicken these days...

Pscarb

i will agree with Tom to your choices of fatty meats like pork scratchings and processed food are rubbish, you may be losing weight but is it fat? or muscle?

the amino profile of these meats(loose term) is poor at best you may want the fats but there are much more efficient ways to get fats in for a KETO diet and i would love some one to disagree with me..
Nuts/Salmon/Mackerel/Olives/Olive Oil/Peanut Butter are all better choices than processed meats and pork scratchings to use these two over the list i have mentioned is lazy in my opinion.

By using good protein sources and adding fats to them will help shed fat on this style of diet and preserve muscle or even build muscle and the more muscle you have the more calories you burn at rest.

Even Atkins himself revised his fat sources from his original Atkins diet because he found loading up on trans-fats and to many saturated fats to be not as a efficient as loading up on more good fats.

cwoody123

Mate don't take offence to anything i say, i am only really questioning some of today's misconceptions about fat and how in fact it is not nearly as bad for you as what we are lead to believe.

Now i agree with you on the trans fat and the salt health implications...so i will try to cut them out or at least just occasionally as a treat.

I do not particularly like high fat foods in any sense and i am not enjoying all this steak etc, so i am not using it as an excuse to eat crap. I personally would much more like a nice sweet potato with salad and lean chicken with a drizzle of Virgin.

I lost 7 stone in a year on a 1000 calorie a day diet whilst running 6 nights for the entire year despite having pearcing headaches and barley being able to get out of bed a lot of the time. So i would consider myself far from lazy!

In regards to cardio i have just observed from my own personal experience that cardio is not needed to loose fat. I have tried both ways and for me it is diet that is the real key.

So why perform a muscle wasting exercise when i do not need too.

You have added many good points in your posts (And you Pscarb) that i will defiantly take on board but i can make up my own mind on what i choose to believe and what i do not...but please do not take offence mate, i really do appreciate your input