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Old 25-06-2008, 10:33 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 25-06-2008, 10:51 PM   #32 (permalink)
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And where did i mention butter??
Ah that was probably me

Coconut oil is pretty good too.....and full of good saturated fats (not that I think saturated fats are particularly bad anyway - the fat in beef is only 40% saturated, or thereabouts)

I forgot to buy olives - I'm not happy!

Dunno how much salad you're eating but you could probably stand to eat more veg, otherwise you'll get blocked up...and that's not nice
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Old 25-06-2008, 10:58 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Re: KETO -- Diary

The induction phase of the diet allows one to eat as much protein and fat as desired, the only criteria is that one eats 30 grams of carbs or less.
This allows one to get into ketosis where massive fat burning takes place.
The induction phase is not ment to be on long term, the effects long term do have its own set of problems.
But short term, as much as one pound a day can be lost.
This will stall in as little as 6 weeks.

Once the induction phase is done, carbohydrates are added into the diet very slowly, mostly in the vegetable form of as above fiberous carbs, then after a while apples and other fruits can be added like strawberries.
It works very well for what it is intended to do.

Now the downside.
Extended induction phase can cause constipation, bad odors (mouth and body), hypothyroid, high cortisol, and some malnutrition.
On the induction phase it is totally necessary to take fish oils, and a good multi-vitamin mineral supplement.
It is not ment for long term.

Many people use this diet in the States to get ready for a wedding, graduation, special events that are weeks away, or even a couple of months.
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Old 25-06-2008, 11:10 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Thanks all!

I guess time will tell how effective this is. I swear even thou it has only been 3 days i look leaner...but that is probably Placebo thinking
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Old 25-06-2008, 11:14 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Re: KETO -- Diary

Check this out, it is a fun thing to watch:



You can live without carbohydrates but you can not live without fats.
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Old 25-06-2008, 11:35 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I dont have the exact info mate but www.musculardevelopment.com under the Dave Palumbo ask Q thread in the pros section talks non stop about it.

Basically 1.5 grams protein per lb of body weight, .5 grams of fat per lb of body weight with one recarb meal prior to bed once every week after the initial two weeks have passed. Fiberous carbs are allowed such as brocoli and asparagus..
thanks mate... i'll try to get through all 977 pages of that thread...lol
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You can live without carbohydrates but you can not live without fats.
Is there any more of this? It's definitely a subject that interests me. I read 'The Diet Delusion' not long ago, and that certainly opened my eyes!!! (It's called 'Good Calories, Bad Calories' in the US...)

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Re: KETO -- Diary

Day 4

Ok i looks like the feeling crap was in part due to the fact i have a dioreah sickness bug thing which manifested itself this morning!

Any how i feel bit better now...I dont feel sluggish and my mind feels clear.

Breakfast:
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1 sausage
Mushrooms

Lunch:
1 baby bell
50g full fat cream cheese
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Coconut oil is pretty good too.....and full of good saturated fats (not that I think saturated fats are particularly bad anyway - the fat in beef is only 40% saturated, or thereabouts)
Coconut oil is an exceptional fat
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www.mercola.com has lots of good information on Coconut oil, and lots of other things too, well worth subscribing to his free news letter, some very interesting stuff at times.
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Re: KETO -- Diary

Strange problem!!

For the first time since i have been treated 3 years ago, i couldn't get it up!

Now i don't know what the **** is going on!

few possibilities:

Stress (i have been under quite a lot of stress over the last few days with diet and work, however i have been under pressure before and was still like a bunny!)

Low testosterone (I have a blood test tomorrow morning, so this will either confirm or rule that out)

Prolactin (I very much doubt this has elevated going from my response to dostinex and the fact the tumour has completely gone.

Low carbs

Any one else noticed libido and erection problems doing low carbs?
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Old 26-06-2008, 09:56 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Never noticed that.
So, you are post cycle right now?
How long ago did you finish your PCT?
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God think it has been about 8 weeks...Another thing it could be due too was the 50mg of Proviron i have been taking for the last 4 days...Sorry should have mentioned that!
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Proviron would boost libido
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Re: KETO -- Diary

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Strange problem!!

For the first time since i have been treated 3 years ago, i couldn't get it up!

Now i don't know what the **** is going on!

few possibilities:

Stress (i have been under quite a lot of stress over the last few days with diet and work, however i have been under pressure before and was still like a bunny!)

Low testosterone (I have a blood test tomorrow morning, so this will either confirm or rule that out)

Prolactin (I very much doubt this has elevated going from my response to dostinex and the fact the tumour has completely gone.

Low carbs

Any one else noticed libido and erection problems doing low carbs?
I'm in week 11 of my diet, the last 3 weeks have been Monday to Saturday am Keto (less than 20g carbs / day), rest of Saturday as a carb up day, with Sunday as a medium carb (approx 100g).

I have deffinately noticed lack of libido mate, even though I am supported with gear.

On the plus side, my lower obliques and serratus became much more deffined very quickly after changing over to this style of diet after 6 weeks of regular carb cycling.

The other thing I am noticing is dizzy spells during my 2nd cardio session of the day which I assume is blood-sugar related.

Obviously strength is down some what but no more than expected.

Becareful if your using ECA, I'm going to be taking a break from ephedrine as its really giving me anxiety problems at the moment.

Have to agree with Cons post. IMO there are far better protein / fat sources availiable than processed meat. Personally, I stick with lean meat or fish and add the fat in the form of fish oil, nuts and hemp / flax oil.
Also, I can't see any point in frying anything in olive oil. Your just going to degrade the oil.

But , have to say this a very interesting read and will be looking forward to seeing the results
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