Diet to get shredded, help please. - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

MXD · 29-05-2008, 03:02 PM

Alright lads, I'm after the opinions of those who have dieted to sub 6% and how best to acheive it.

I'm currently dieting and cosuming 10*lbm calories, under 100g carbs per day.
Sitting at 10%ish body fat and I'm planning a reffed e7d consisting of more carbs.

I also plan to drop a day/s between reffeeds as I get continually leaner.

Now I was wondering what you all think I should take my calories to on my refeed as I'm eating 1650 pd / 10*lbm currently.

Or would you suggest a different approach as carb rotation, or a type of ckd?, cheers.

My maintainance = 2475k

shorty · 29-05-2008, 03:33 PM

1650 cals per day

... i'm eating 1800 - 2000 cals a day and think thats hard!!

MXD · 29-05-2008, 03:56 PM

lol, its ok.

Lost Soul · 29-05-2008, 04:18 PM

1650 calories each day is too low

**Robsta** · 29-05-2008, 04:22 PM

I thought it should be 500 cals down from normal to cut in....??

Lost Soul · 29-05-2008, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Robsta

I thought it should be 500 cals down from normal to cut in....??

Not universally, so many ways to do it
1650 calories though is not one of them

MXD · 29-05-2008, 04:27 PM

I'm loosing 0 muscle, though power output is down. That allways happens with me when I reduce my carb intake.

Any more opinions / help??

btw im doing 0 cardio..

Lost Soul · 29-05-2008, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MXD

I'm loosing 0 muscle, though power output is down. That allways happens with me when I reduce my carb intake.

Any more opinions / help??

btw im doing 0 cardio..

You will not lose muscle initially, you will do though when you get into the depths of dieting.

1650 calories is a fraction of your TDEE and you can get away with it on a day off from training on the low part of carb cycling diets with a medium and higher day in the two following but trust me you will not get to 6% on a static intake of 1650 calories and keep muscle

MXD · 29-05-2008, 06:14 PM

whatwould you suggest?

Lost Soul · 29-05-2008, 06:41 PM

carb cycle, higher days on training days if you train PM, higher days the day before training if you train first thing

depending on the days you train, cycle high low and medium carb days, protein stays static, fat pretty much too, only thing that changes are carbs

pauly7582 · 30-05-2008, 01:36 AM

Just give it time mate. Even with a re feed. Keeping to so little kcals will break, you I've tried it. First you'll loose a little power. Then a couple of reps. Then 20k off your bench.

Carb cycling is the only way for me and I stay quite sane on it. Keep me full too.

TH&S · 30-05-2008, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MXD

I'm loosing 0 muscle, though power output is down. That allways happens with me when I reduce my carb intake.

Any more opinions / help??

btw im doing 0 cardio..

Max for someone who spent month formulating a PostWorkout Shake I'm worried that you've gone for 1600kcals amigo.

Unless you have finished your cycle you won't be aware of what muscle (if any you have lost) due to the amount of fluid your body will still be retaining.

All the BB'ers will say carb cycling.

If you can do it then it may be worth while having a look at some form of modified Keto (TKD+CKD) which is in essence a form of carb cycling.

Also the answer you don't want to hear is that you need to up your cardio.

AM Cardio (none fasted IMHO) every day - 45mins walk, lunchtime gentle walk and then Tabatas PWO.

If you are trying to get that low, are you competing?? If you you know you'll need to alter the format of your cycle?

**Robsta** · 30-05-2008, 09:31 AM

Oh, decided to show your face have you.....
Me and you have to have a serious talk if this relationship is going to work.......

MXD · 30-05-2008, 12:02 PM

Its the fact that chris thib and other t-nationers reccomend the 10*lmb deficit. And so far I've had good results on it. But I'm going to be doing;
high
low
no

carb days in that order from now on. Also I am mega dosing bcaa/eaa which are incredible..

Thanks for your help all.

shorty · 30-05-2008, 12:12 PM

you look pretty ripped so far mate... just get a tan and you'll be rite

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