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Old 25-06-2008, 06:07 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Re: In what order do we loose fat?

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That made me laugh out loud lol.

hack... Get a younger girl friend dude! with big bush!
lol, That would be alot of fun.
But one thing I know, if you cheat on a woman that loves you, you will bring out the worst in humanity.
There hath no rath like a woman scorned. I have seen this first hand with her last time she left me when she thought I cheated on her. I didnt cheat but she thought I did.
Oh man, that was the ugliest thing I ever saw in my life.
Dont get me wrong, the thought has crossed my mind, but acting out on that thought would really be a bad thing if she were to find out. Not only that but she does not deserve this as she is a good woman, I just could not do that to her even though I do think about it.
She would rather watch me be with someone than have me do it outside of the relationship.
I dont think that would be a good idea either.
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Re: In what order do we loose fat?

This is exactly what i went through...But my need for sex was much greater...I toyed with the idea of cheating and using prostitutes to satisfy my hunger.

In the end thou i love her so much that i dont think i could ever do it...luckily enough i have calmed down abit and she has got better.

But it is not very nice thing to go through...at the end of the day mate your just fighting against your natural instincts to pro create...Damn that Oxytocin!!!
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Old 29-06-2008, 09:25 PM   #48 (permalink)
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With a Ephedra and caffeine stack I hear yohombine is a good thing to add, though unfortunately in the UK we can only get the oral use Yohombine but I guess that would have to do.

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they are are available in the UK

https://www.theafstore.com/eu/produc...age=1&featured

https://www.theafstore.com/eu/produc...4&cat=5&page=1

oral yohimbine is not reccomended with EC (BP and anxiety issues), oral Y is ok with xanthine and synephrine based stacks (if you can tolerate the oral Y which many cannot)
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Old 29-06-2008, 09:31 PM   #49 (permalink)
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These are the only two Aromatase inhibitors I've found available in the UK(so far), would either be useful, relatively safe to use at all. The second link claims to be the second coming in these products but realistically, I haven't a clue if its better or not. Its explaination, and a quick read on the drugs it uses, seems to suggest it might be better, but then it could all be BS, anyone used either?
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6oxo and ATD (rebound xt) are effective AI's. HOWEVER, they have terrible half life and poor (but also quite variable) oral bioavailability. Generally reccomend against their use. 6oxo also has some E metabolites, which are a bit of an unknown.

basically they lack effective delivery and active life (transdermal, pellet, or esterfied and injected they would be good). Most steroidal AI's need to be methylated to be effective orally. (as aromasin is, 6-methylated)

Reccomend aromasin (research companies and sources will carry) or AIFM (transdermal ATD, transdermal delivery overcomes both the half life- via dermal lag- and the bioavailability issues with ATD) which the european afstore carries.
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Old 29-06-2008, 09:51 PM   #50 (permalink)
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or AIFM (transdermal ATD, transdermal delivery overcomes both the half life- via dermal lag- and the bioavailability issues with ATD) which the european afstore carries.
ATD has DHEA in it, is that legal to import into the UK?

Does this AI work well and what is the half life of it?
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Re: In what order do we loose fat?

The european AFSTORE ships from the UK, so there are no import issues.

AIFM is pretty comparable to aromasin (a bit stronger at higher end dosing). delivery rate varies, however generally the bolus is released over 8-12 hours with lesser release for 24-36hrs. most people dose twice a day, though once a day dosing is feasible.
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as a topical it is not subject to the same regulations as "supplements".
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as a topical it is not subject to the same regulations as "supplements".
How many mg's of DHEA?
How many mg's of DHEA gets in to your system transdermally?

I mean what is the % of loss through a transdermal preperation?
I know it is high as testim (testosterone gel) is 5g gell that has 50mg of testosterone, approximatly 10% is absorbed in a 24 hour period.

I have always wondered where the other 90% was lost to.......lol
Sorry, but that is one question I always wanted to know.


So, do you rate that transdermal AI?
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How many mg's of DHEA?
How many mg's of DHEA gets in to your system transdermally?

I mean what is the % of loss through a transdermal preperation?
I know it is high as testim (testosterone gel) is 5g gell that has 50mg of testosterone, approximatly 10% is absorbed in a 24 hour period.

I have always wondered where the other 90% was lost to.......lol
Sorry, but that is one question I always wanted to know.


So, do you rate that transdermal AI?
5 pumps which is the high end of dosing provides about the equivalent of 50mg orally (so its relatively low, but enough to be supportive when your adrenal DHEA is suppressed)

testim and androgel use one of the oldest delivery platforms, 10% is very poor (its actually 5-15%- skin thickness and dermal integrity causing such variations-- age is the primary cause of loss of thickness and integrity- also its penetration potency limits sites of effective delivery).

AIFM uses a much more advanced (though relatively natural delivery platform-- nature makes damn good penetration enhancers ), delivery can be up to 50%. because of higher penetration, site of application is not as important to uptake (though it still can have impact).

with respect to what happens to the other percentage with any transdermal, some is heavily metabolised in the dermis (it goes through to slowly), some just gets trapped and is later shed with dead skin, some just remains in the outer layer and is washed away (when you shower)
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I like that post, I always wondered what happened to the otherstuff that does not get metabolised.
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always seems to be my gut last sadly. although I think that may be down to several pints too many at the weekend

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My face, neck and thighs lose it first. My hips and arms last.
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I like that post, I always wondered what happened to the otherstuff that does not get metabolised.

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