VLCD?? - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

cwoody123 · 07-03-2008, 01:32 AM

Hi guys i have been investigating the effects of following a very low calorie diet after reading about the HCG diet. I have found this study in regards to VLCD and either cardio or resistance exercise, just wondering what you guys think about these kinds of diets?

OBJECTIVE: Utilization of very-low-calorie diets () for weight loss results in loss of lean body weight (LBW) and a decrease in resting metabolic rate (RMR). The addition of aerobic exercise does not prevent this. The purpose of this study was to examine the effect of intensive, high volume resistance training combined with a on these parameters. METHODS: Twenty subjects (17 women, three men), mean age 38 years, were randomly assigned to either standard treatment control plus diet (C+D), n = 10, or resistance exercise plus diet (R+D), n = 10. Both groups consumed 800 kcal/day liquid formula diets for 12 weeks. The C+D group exercised 1 hour four times/week by walking, biking or stair climbing. The R+D group performed resistance training 3 days/week at 10 stations increasing from two sets of 8 to 15 repetitions to four sets of 8 to 15 repetitions by 12 weeks. Groups were similar at baseline with respect to weight, body composition, aerobic capacity, and resting metabolic rate. RESULTS: Maximum oxygen consumption (Max VO2) increased significantly (p<0.05) but equally in both groups. Body weight decreased significantly more (p<0.01) in C+D than R+D. The C+D group lost a significant (p<0.05) amount of LBW (51 to 47 kg). No decrease in LBW was observed in R+D. In addition, R+D had an increase (p<0.05) in RMR O2 ml/kg/min (2.6 to 3.1). The 24 hour RMR decreased (p<0.05) in the C+D group. CONCLUSION: The addition of an intensive, high volume resistance training program resulted in preservation of LBW and RMR during weight loss with a .

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=10204826

Tall · 07-03-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cwoody123

Hi guys i have been investigating the effects of following a very low calorie diet after reading about the HCG diet. I have found this study in regards to VLCD and either cardio or resistance exercise, just wondering what you guys think about these kinds of diets?

OBJECTIVE: Utilization of very-low-calorie diets () for weight loss results in loss of lean body weight (LBW) and a decrease in resting metabolic rate (RMR). The addition of aerobic exercise does not prevent this. The purpose of this study was to examine the effect of intensive, high volume resistance training combined with a on these parameters. METHODS: Twenty subjects (17 women, three men), mean age 38 years, were randomly assigned to either standard treatment control plus diet (C+D), n = 10, or resistance exercise plus diet (R+D), n = 10. Both groups consumed 800 kcal/day liquid formula diets for 12 weeks. The C+D group exercised 1 hour four times/week by walking, biking or stair climbing. The R+D group performed resistance training 3 days/week at 10 stations increasing from two sets of 8 to 15 repetitions to four sets of 8 to 15 repetitions by 12 weeks. Groups were similar at baseline with respect to weight, body composition, aerobic capacity, and resting metabolic rate. RESULTS: Maximum oxygen consumption (Max VO2) increased significantly (p<0.05) but equally in both groups. Body weight decreased significantly more (p<0.01) in C+D than R+D. The C+D group lost a significant (p<0.05) amount of LBW (51 to 47 kg). No decrease in LBW was observed in R+D. In addition, R+D had an increase (p<0.05) in RMR O2 ml/kg/min (2.6 to 3.1). The 24 hour RMR decreased (p<0.05) in the C+D group. CONCLUSION: The addition of an intensive, high volume resistance training program resulted in preservation of LBW and RMR during weight loss with a .

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=10204826

Woody - can you get the full text for me...?

The abstract is badly written.

It reads as though the C+D group lost 51kg to 47kg of LBW in 12 weeks, without stating what their fat loss was.

I think it means they lost 4kg (51kg - 47kg)

cwoody123 · 07-03-2008, 03:16 PM

I see what you mean, it took a little digging but i found it: http://www.jacn.org/cgi/content/full/18/2/115

Wee G · 07-03-2008, 03:34 PM

Nothing wrong with vlcd's per se, as long as steps are taken to preserve LBM as the study notes. So, go for it BUT look out for...
Enough resistance exercise to preserve LBM.
Enough fibre, fats and protein to maintain general health (ie most kcals should be cut from CHO)
Enough minerals etc to preserve hormonal status.
Occasional refeeding with CHO to promote increased BMR and reset leptin levels.

Cheers,

G

cwoody123 · 07-03-2008, 04:21 PM

I was thinking a very VLCD along with CLA and maybe HCG. Along with 4 x weights session a week with ECA on training days.

07-03-2008, 01:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
cwoody123 Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Berkshire Posts: 745	VLCD?? Hi guys i have been investigating the effects of following a very low calorie diet after reading about the HCG diet. I have found this study in regards to VLCD and either cardio or resistance exercise, just wondering what you guys think about these kinds of diets? OBJECTIVE: Utilization of very-low-calorie diets (VLCD) for weight loss results in loss of lean body weight (LBW) and a decrease in resting metabolic rate (RMR). The addition of aerobic exercise does not prevent this. The purpose of this study was to examine the effect of intensive, high volume resistance training combined with a VLCD on these parameters. METHODS: Twenty subjects (17 women, three men), mean age 38 years, were randomly assigned to either standard treatment control plus diet (C+D), n = 10, or resistance exercise plus diet (R+D), n = 10. Both groups consumed 800 kcal/day liquid formula diets for 12 weeks. The C+D group exercised 1 hour four times/week by walking, biking or stair climbing. The R+D group performed resistance training 3 days/week at 10 stations increasing from two sets of 8 to 15 repetitions to four sets of 8 to 15 repetitions by 12 weeks. Groups were similar at baseline with respect to weight, body composition, aerobic capacity, and resting metabolic rate. RESULTS: Maximum oxygen consumption (Max VO2) increased significantly (p<0.05) but equally in both groups. Body weight decreased significantly more (p<0.01) in C+D than R+D. The C+D group lost a significant (p<0.05) amount of LBW (51 to 47 kg). No decrease in LBW was observed in R+D. In addition, R+D had an increase (p<0.05) in RMR O2 ml/kg/min (2.6 to 3.1). The 24 hour RMR decreased (p<0.05) in the C+D group. CONCLUSION: The addition of an intensive, high volume resistance training program resulted in preservation of LBW and RMR during weight loss with a VLCD. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=10204826

07-03-2008, 03:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
cwoody123 Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Berkshire Posts: 745	Re: VLCD?? I see what you mean, it took a little digging but i found it: http://www.jacn.org/cgi/content/full/18/2/115

07-03-2008, 03:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
Wee G Gym Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Inverness, Scotland Posts: 363	Re: VLCD?? Nothing wrong with vlcd's per se, as long as steps are taken to preserve LBM as the study notes. So, go for it BUT look out for... Enough resistance exercise to preserve LBM. Enough fibre, fats and protein to maintain general health (ie most kcals should be cut from CHO) Enough minerals etc to preserve hormonal status. Occasional refeeding with CHO to promote increased BMR and reset leptin levels. Cheers, G

07-03-2008, 04:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
cwoody123 Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Berkshire Posts: 745	Re: VLCD?? I was thinking a very VLCD along with CLA and maybe HCG. Along with 4 x weights session a week with ECA on training days.