Regular Cutting Vs Pre-Comp - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

RACK · 22-02-2008, 02:18 PM

Could someone please explain to me how much difference there is between the 2?

I'm interested in this at the min as I'm carb cycling and doing well, but wouldn't mind seeing a pre-comp diet as I'd like to adopt something like this for the 26weeks left to my hol.

Cheers
RACK

d@n · 22-02-2008, 02:20 PM

bloody hell rack you still cutting and are plaining to for another 26weeks :beer1:

RACK · 22-02-2008, 02:25 PM

Yes mate. Want to get down to single digit BF, am 19% at the min due to piggin out at xmas and taking a few wrong turns

d@n · 22-02-2008, 02:27 PM

why dont you just eat around your maitaince level and try to add some mass? youve been cutting since 2005 you must of lost aload of muscle so the best way to get into single digits would be to add some mass.

RACK · 22-02-2008, 02:35 PM

I don't think I've got that big a frame mate, would aim for just over 70kg but ripped up.
Was 27%bf start of last year, got to 14% for august.

Plus will be starting back on cycle soon.

**Pscarb** · 22-02-2008, 02:43 PM

well the biggest difference with dieting and pre-comp dieting it does not take you 26 weeks to get to single digit BF%

The other difference is you don't pig out un less it is planned....

lets take an average day for me dieting on a low carb day (180g) this is at the 12 week stage but will lower to approx 100g by the end...

the key to pre-comp dieting is knowing everything that you eat how much carbs/protein and fats you eat every day.

no diverting from this regeme for the whole 12 weeks this includes when you are doing cardio 7days a week 90min a day....

how long have you been dieting for? what BF% did you start at?

RACK · 22-02-2008, 02:54 PM

Hi Paul, thanks for the info.

Been tryin to loose weight for about 2 years, but started being serious at the start of last year.
Went from over 17st at around 28%bf in Jan, to Just below 14st at 14% for august.

Started this year about 15st, and am now sitting at 14st 7lb at 19%BF
I'm religious about my training and eating but am getting really frustrated with not being able to get the abs or any vascularity.

I'm not one of those people who say they don't eat anything and then sits and pigs out on the sly, I'm stick to it 100%. I know there's more than one way to skin a cat, I've just not found the right knife.

At the min I'm carb cycling, know every cal and macro value and and doing weights 4times per week, with 2 cardio sessions per day. I don't take training lightly and give it my all (ask Rightyho, who saw me just about passout)

Any help would be and is greatly appreciated.

RACK · 22-02-2008, 02:57 PM

Here's a rough breakdown of diet
pro carbs fat
high 300 300 30
1200 1200 270 2670

medium 300 150 30
1200 600 270 2070

low 300 50 30
1200 200 270 1670

Mon-High
Tues-Med
Wed-Low
Thur-High
Fri-Med
Sat-Low
Sun-Med

Cardio is 40mins at 6am and 4pm, weights are at 12.30pm on mon, tues, thurs and fri

**Pscarb** · 22-02-2008, 04:39 PM

well at first glance you have way to little fat in that diet mate this in itself can cause a halt in fatloss.

i will mail you a diet i gave my training partner 6 weeks ago and he has lost 42lbs...

s.g · 22-02-2008, 05:58 PM

hi sorry to hijack but is there any chance you could mail it to me aswell paul as looking for a good carb cycling diet to do over 8 weeks before my hols.
thanks

**hackskii** · 22-02-2008, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pscarb

i will mail you a diet i gave my training partner 6 weeks ago and he has lost 42lbs...

42 lbs?

That is a pound a day.
Is he taking gear to offset catabolism?
Wow, that just seems too good to be true, I know guys on the HCG diet can do a pound a day, but that sounds like either he is on the stairmaster all day or has restricted calories to the point of catabolism.

Hey Paul, can you send me that diet?

Kezz · 22-02-2008, 06:45 PM

yeah and me!! lol

RACK · 22-02-2008, 08:36 PM

Thanks Paul

PM sent

**Pscarb** · 22-02-2008, 10:10 PM

i will dig it out guys but it is not anything special just applied discapline and cardio, you have to understand though Rob my training partner was 23stone so he was not looking to lose a bit of fat around his middle he has it to lose plus a good quantity of that 42lbs was water.

our goal is to bring him down to 17stone by June which we will do and i can assure you the results will slow down at some point but that is where the magic comes in

RACK · 26-02-2008, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pscarb

i will dig it out guys but it is not anything special just applied discapline and cardio, you have to understand though Rob my training partner was 23stone so he was not looking to lose a bit of fat around his middle he has it to lose plus a good quantity of that 42lbs was water.

our goal is to bring him down to 17stone by June which we will do and i can assure you the results will slow down at some point but that is where the magic comes in

Just found this in the sticky at the top of this section. Is this the diet you were talking about Paul?

Meal 1:
8 whole eggs

Meal 2:
Two scoops of pro peptide with 1 serving of natural peanut butter with water.

Meal 3:
8 oz. of lean meat with large bowl of romaine with 1 Tbsp flax/Olive oil and vinegar

Meal 4:
Two scoops of pro peptide with 1 serving of natural peanut butter with water.

Meal 5:
8 oz. lean meat with 1 serving of cashews/peanuts

Meal 6:
8 oz. lean meat with 1 serving of cashews/peanuts.

pick one day a week normally a sat for one Hour eat 300 g of carbs then back on the diet.

do 1 session of cardio in the morning before breakfast of 40min walking is best as any thing over 65% of max and you will burn carbs instead of fat.

22-02-2008, 02:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
RACK Gym Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 476	Regular Cutting Vs Pre-Comp Could someone please explain to me how much difference there is between the 2? I'm interested in this at the min as I'm carb cycling and doing well, but wouldn't mind seeing a pre-comp diet as I'd like to adopt something like this for the 26weeks left to my hol. Cheers RACK

22-02-2008, 02:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
d@n Gym Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 414 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Regular Cutting Vs Pre-Comp bloody hell rack you still cutting and are plaining to for another 26weeks :beer1: __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

22-02-2008, 02:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
RACK Gym Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 476	Re: Regular Cutting Vs Pre-Comp Yes mate. Want to get down to single digit BF, am 19% at the min due to piggin out at xmas and taking a few wrong turns

22-02-2008, 02:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
d@n Gym Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 414 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Regular Cutting Vs Pre-Comp why dont you just eat around your maitaince level and try to add some mass? youve been cutting since 2005 you must of lost aload of muscle so the best way to get into single digits would be to add some mass. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

22-02-2008, 02:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
RACK Gym Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 476	Re: Regular Cutting Vs Pre-Comp I don't think I've got that big a frame mate, would aim for just over 70kg but ripped up. Was 27%bf start of last year, got to 14% for august. Plus will be starting back on cycle soon.

22-02-2008, 02:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,174	Re: Regular Cutting Vs Pre-Comp well the biggest difference with dieting and pre-comp dieting it does not take you 26 weeks to get to single digit BF% The other difference is you don't pig out un less it is planned.... lets take an average day for me dieting on a low carb day (180g) this is at the 12 week stage but will lower to approx 100g by the end... the key to pre-comp dieting is knowing everything that you eat how much carbs/protein and fats you eat every day. no diverting from this regeme for the whole 12 weeks this includes when you are doing cardio 7days a week 90min a day.... how long have you been dieting for? what BF% did you start at? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Admin at To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Nutrition is your greatest anabolic agent everything else is just the icing on the cake

22-02-2008, 02:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
RACK Gym Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 476	Re: Regular Cutting Vs Pre-Comp Hi Paul, thanks for the info. Been tryin to loose weight for about 2 years, but started being serious at the start of last year. Went from over 17st at around 28%bf in Jan, to Just below 14st at 14% for august. Started this year about 15st, and am now sitting at 14st 7lb at 19%BF I'm religious about my training and eating but am getting really frustrated with not being able to get the abs or any vascularity. I'm not one of those people who say they don't eat anything and then sits and pigs out on the sly, I'm stick to it 100%. I know there's more than one way to skin a cat, I've just not found the right knife. At the min I'm carb cycling, know every cal and macro value and and doing weights 4times per week, with 2 cardio sessions per day. I don't take training lightly and give it my all (ask Rightyho, who saw me just about passout) Any help would be and is greatly appreciated.

22-02-2008, 02:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
RACK Gym Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 476	Re: Regular Cutting Vs Pre-Comp Here's a rough breakdown of diet pro carbs fat high 300 300 30 1200 1200 270 2670 medium 300 150 30 1200 600 270 2070 low 300 50 30 1200 200 270 1670 Mon-High Tues-Med Wed-Low Thur-High Fri-Med Sat-Low Sun-Med Cardio is 40mins at 6am and 4pm, weights are at 12.30pm on mon, tues, thurs and fri

22-02-2008, 04:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,174	Re: Regular Cutting Vs Pre-Comp well at first glance you have way to little fat in that diet mate this in itself can cause a halt in fatloss. i will mail you a diet i gave my training partner 6 weeks ago and he has lost 42lbs... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Admin at To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Nutrition is your greatest anabolic agent everything else is just the icing on the cake

22-02-2008, 05:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
s.g Newbie Trainer Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 28	Re: Regular Cutting Vs Pre-Comp hi sorry to hijack but is there any chance you could mail it to me aswell paul as looking for a good carb cycling diet to do over 8 weeks before my hols. thanks

22-02-2008, 06:45 PM	#12 (permalink)
Kezz Getting HUGE! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Wales Posts: 2,102	Re: Regular Cutting Vs Pre-Comp yeah and me!! lol __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

22-02-2008, 08:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
RACK Gym Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 476	Re: Regular Cutting Vs Pre-Comp Thanks Paul PM sent

22-02-2008, 10:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,174	Re: Regular Cutting Vs Pre-Comp i will dig it out guys but it is not anything special just applied discapline and cardio, you have to understand though Rob my training partner was 23stone so he was not looking to lose a bit of fat around his middle he has it to lose plus a good quantity of that 42lbs was water. our goal is to bring him down to 17stone by June which we will do and i can assure you the results will slow down at some point but that is where the magic comes in __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Admin at To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Nutrition is your greatest anabolic agent everything else is just the icing on the cake

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