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Old 18-01-2008, 08:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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10% Bodyfat

Im aiming to get down to 10% bodyfat and then try and 'clean bulk' afterwards and then strip back down and cycle it like a lot of people on here.

What Im wondering. Is 10% too low a bodyfat percentage for hypertrophy? is there an ideal bodyfat percentage range for muscle growth or is it simply a surplus of good calories and keeping the diet clean?
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Re: 10% Bodyfat

No 9-10% is the range you want to stay in for best anabolic effect, higher bf % lead to many things not conclusive for muscle growth.
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No 9-10% is the range you want to stay in for best anabolic effect, higher bf % lead to many things not conclusive for muscle growth.
I have read that its higher than that. 13/17 is optimum . Thats what iron addict reckons anyhow. IIRC

I reckon it depends a lot on bodytype and weather your assisted or not.

Gotta be easier for an AAS user to build lean mass and stay lean then a natural lifter.
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Old 18-01-2008, 08:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: 10% Bodyfat

Thanks for replying guys!

Im a natural lifter. So should I still be able to grow with 10% bodyfat?

Im assuming just eating clean will help me to keep the BF down whilst growing?
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Old 18-01-2008, 08:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks for replying guys!

Im a natural lifter. So should I still be able to grow with 10% bodyfat?
I reckon it would depend on your body type mate.

Im an endo and im pretty certain i couldnt grow (at the optimum rate) and stay at 10%. Im also a natural lifter.

If your a meso or ecto you probably can stay at 10% and gain well however.
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Re: 10% Bodyfat

Good point Bully, i was more talking about the more assisted of trainers and no i dont mean a 6 pack of cider:beer1:
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Re: 10% Bodyfat

probably between ectomorph and mesomorph to be honest but closer to ecto.

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Good point Bully, i was more talking about the more assisted of trainers and no i dont mean a 6 pack of cider:beer1:
funny you mention cider, just drinking a magners now

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I have read that its higher than that. 13/17 is optimum . Thats what iron addict reckons anyhow. IIRC
I think that just makes fat people feel better about them selves, ;)
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I think that just makes fat people feel better about them selves, ;)
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The flaw in the theory bully is once its diet time then the natty trainer has a longer way to get ripped and as we all know dieting for the natty guy is very catabolic so its debateable if staying leaner wouldnt add just the same if not more size once all is done and said.
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Re: 10% Bodyfat

In all seriousness, I fail to see how a load of extra fat on your gut, natural or not will make you anymore anabolic, if the foods you consume are adequate.
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PMSL.

The flaw in the theory bully is once its diet time then the natty trainer has a longer way to get ripped and as we all know dieting for the natty guy is very catabolic so its debateable if staying leaner wouldnt add just the same if not more size once all is done and said.
Good point buddy.

There was a thread on iron addicts forum about this very subject, i will try and dig it out later.
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I agree..., Can't see how muscle gain will differ tbh, eg, between 10% bf and say 17%
Just that with a lean bulk the muscle will look more impressive as theres not a layer of fat covering it...
There may well be a scientific explanation to the contraty but I don't know of one...
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Re: 10% Bodyfat

We are talking whats the optimum bodyfat percentage for maximum muscle gain.

i.e, the best enviroment (bodyfat wise) that allows maximum muscle growth.

I think 10% is low . Im not saying its not possible to gain LBM and stay at 10%, but dont think its optimal. And almost certainly not for endomorphs imo.

Gear is gonna play a role here too.
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