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loosing fat while gaining muscle

here is my diet plan,i want to loose fat and gain some size back.

1.oats with raisens
syntha 6

2,6 oatcakes with low fat soft cheese,and a banana

3,chicken,rice(peas sweetcorn red and green peppers and chilli flakes in it)

4,same as 3

5,steak,pork loin or chicken......rice or potatoes,and some grapes

6,no explode or superpump 250 pre workout

7,mrp post workout

8,6 oatcakes with cottage cheese

anything missing?
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:hungry:They would'nt be staffordshire oatcakes would they
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:hungry:They would'nt be staffordshire oatcakes would they
there called rough oatcakes "which they probably will be"
or was i missing something there other than posting my diet in the ladies section!!
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some nuts?
i use a bit of olive oil when cooking,thats about it really.
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there called rough oatcakes "which they probably will be"
If they look like pancakes but brown then they could be staffordshire oatcakes(local delicacy very healthy)
or was i missing something there other than posting my diet in the ladies section!!
No m8 far from it,They're dead cheap I use them instead of wholemeal wraps, N1
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here is my diet plan,i want to loose fat and gain some size back.

1.oats with raisens
syntha 6

2,6 oatcakes with low fat soft cheese,and a banana

3,chicken,rice(peas sweetcorn red and green peppers and chilli flakes in it)

4,same as 3

5,steak,pork loin or chicken......rice or potatoes,and some grapes

6,no explode or superpump 250 pre workout

7,mrp post workout

8,6 oatcakes with cottage cheese

anything missing?
Too many carbs IMO, I think you would do well to up the fats and drop the carbs a bit, you will have far more success in dropping the body fat.

Meals 3, 4 and 5 could easily be meat and veg, with no added starches, I think it would make a decent difference.
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Too many carbs IMO, I think you would do well to up the fats and drop the carbs a bit, you will have far more success in dropping the body fat.

Meals 3, 4 and 5 could easily be meat and veg, with no added starches, I think it would make a decent difference.
Yeah he would have to be doing a lot of cardio to lean out on that.
Higher good fat for hormones with carbs around training and lots of green veg is probably your best bet.
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Too many carbs IMO, I think you would do well to up the fats and drop the carbs a bit, you will have far more success in dropping the body fat.

Meals 3, 4 and 5 could easily be meat and veg, with no added starches, I think it would make a decent difference.

cheers for the advice guys,i have a manual job and work quite long hours could i not just have minimal carbs with meals 3 4 and 5?
could do with out going hypo at work due to low blood sugar.
i am not diabetic just get a bit low,or eat a different carb other than rice?

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cheers for the advice guys,i have a manual job and work quite long hours could i not just have minimal carbs with meals 3 4 and 5?
could do with out going hypo at work due to low blood sugar.
i am not diabetic just get a bit low,or eat a different carb other than rice?

thanks for the help
The thing is mate, you want to get your body to tap into your fat stores for energy, so by restricting the energy from carbs you force it to look elsewhere.

Obviously you do not want to go hypo, is that something you get often?

If you do feel the need for more consistent carbs, then maybe try every other meal without carbs, so they are more evenly spread out.
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Re: loosing fat while gaining muscle

i tend to get a bit low if i miss a meal or dont eat on time.
i will try by loosing the rice in meals 3 and 4,how about fruit with those instead?
meal 5 is usualy before training.

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you need 10% good fats in every meal dude.
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i tend to get a bit low if i miss a meal or dont eat on time.
i will try by loosing the rice in meals 3 and 4,how about fruit with those instead?
meal 5 is usualy before training.

cheers for the advice
Fruit is not so good TBH, fructose is one of the worst things you can eat when trying to diet, as it can cause insulin resistance.

I would try adding more fats to meals, as this will stabilize blood sugar levels, and you will probably feel better TBH, the 1st few days may take some getting used to, but after that, you should be good.
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Fruit is not so good TBH, fructose is one of the worst things you can eat when trying to diet, as it can cause insulin resistance.

I would try adding more fats to meals, as this will stabilize blood sugar levels, and you will probably feel better TBH, the 1st few days may take some getting used to, but after that, you should be good.
ok mate will do that,i was going put some cashews in i dont eat fish so maybe supplements of some kind.
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Cashews will do nicely, (just don't eat the whole bag, )
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