Mack

Hey guys

I'm on the 4th day of a keto diet to kick off my new weight loss, I got some of those ketostix and and I'm still not remotely in Ketosis? Has anyone else had this problem?

I don't mind the diet right now and I don't feel my energy levels are low. In fact I feel excellent. I'm taking loads of fish oils as recommended and I cook my food in some olive oil. Alrhough I haven't cut out the skimmed milk yet.. having it in tea and the ocassional protein shake. Could this be preventing ketosis or is it a matter of time?

TH&S

Okay without seeing your diet its difficult to say.

From memory ketones are only excreted in your urine when they are not being used for energy by the body.

i.e. its easier for someone with a sedentary lifestyle to 'see' the fact they are in ketosis with ketostix than someone with an active lifestyle.

Are you slowly losing weight each morning after you've been to the toilet?

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ah24

No expert on the matter....but id imagine it taking longer than 4 days to get into ketosis?

Also, cut the milk...and have pure protein shakes (ones with 0g carbs & fats) they're expensive, but worth it if your wanting to do it properly.

Mack

I have lost a few pounds over the last four days. I'll see where my weight is tomorrow to see if it has declined or has settled. My diet over the last few days has been eggs, turkey and rump steak. Although admittedly I understand there are some carbs in skimmed milk which I have with my whey protein shakes. I don't think my daily carb intake has exceeded 20 grams to be honest... if that is enough to keep the body out of ketosis.

I didn't think about only excess ketones being in the urine...I have been active as I have been in the gym all four days doing weights.

[EDIT] I use the Promax Whey Protein shake. I will cut the milk to and see how my weight loss progresses.

ah24

Mack, can i ask why your using a ketone diet mate?

To be honest going by your avvie i think it would be easier to just take a sub-maintenance calorie diet mixed with a decent training regime and cardio 5-6 days a week to down to say 10%....then, if you want to go lower maybe try a ketosis diet..

Just my humble opinion

TH&S

I'm prob speaking out of my bum here but isn't it something like x days where you just drop water and glycogen and then x days to get into ketosis? So ketosis starts in week 2?

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Mack

Interesting that... some sources have said only 48 hours. Some guys say they hit it in four days.

TH&S

You could well be right - all diet stuff seems to blend into one for me

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ah24

48 hours is the point that your brain starts to burn ketones...but your not in full ketosis...but only if you really arent contributing to any blood glucose through diet - which from the standard protein shakes, the milk etc you might not of been doing..

TH&S, yes i think your right...but as said im no expert myself!

Mack

@ TH&S: you're blending your whole diet!??

Those shakes must be well rough.

@ah24: Damn it... I was literally drinking a milk protein shake as I wrote this post!

TH&S

That sounds about right mate and wiki confirmed it.

I got nothing reading on ketostix when I tried em. I just went by the mirror and the missus occasionally said my breath smelled like pear drops / record cleaner.

I only stayed on zero carbs for two weeks though (as I was told to...) - something about raising blood acidity?

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Pscarb

keto diet's suck as you cannot and will not stay on them for ever, Carb cycling is a much better optoin and you can maintain this type of eating long term.

I will say just by one of your comments that you will find it very hard to reach ketosis whilst drinking milk in your shakes seeing as milk has 5g of carbs per 100ml....

do a search on carb cycling and go from their mate...

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Mack

Thanks mate I'll look into carb cycling as a longer term option definately

[EDIT] I'm going to give ketosis as a go, as much out of pure interest as weight loss so to how effective it is over the next 2 weeks. Having never 'dieted' in my life, it's entirely new to me.

Pscarb

you must remember though that in the first few weeks all you will really lose is water as for every 1g of carbs your body absorbs 3g of water...

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shorty

i read a keto diet on here and it stated no more than 6-8g of carbs per meal apart from your post workout meal where you can have carbs and a carb up day..thats the only time.

found it, it was posted by pscarb, and is a very good read, so maybe useful!

Timed Carbs

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