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philipebrown · 27-05-2004, 01:09 PM

Okay, Im in for a real flaming on this one.

I have smoked for years now, and not even the fact that I am in pursuit of the perfoct body can stop me from continuing this complete waste of time and money! (smoking that is, not training!)

I am planning seriously to give up smoking when i return from my holiday. It helps me to have a date in mind to set myself up for.

As a matter of interest, and I would like to invite Scott to answer this one (Oh wise one) What is the effect of smoking on a person trying to lose fat? (negative I assume, but lets get technical!)

Also any other suggestions about how this habbit affects any aspect of bodybuilding including steroid use?

**Aftershock** · 27-05-2004, 02:59 PM

How many u smoke a day Phil?

philipebrown · 27-05-2004, 03:06 PM

about 6, few more on a saturday night if im out for a pint

**hackskii** · 27-05-2004, 06:40 PM

I think smoking does help to lose weight, but at a cost.
Hey, nicotine is a stimulant, but there are many things in cigarettes, even stuff to keep the tobacco from going out (like fuel):(

Do it the easy rout and do the patches. Lots of friends quit using the patches. Even 2 pack a day guys.

Unfornutaly smoking might be one of the stronger substances for addiction, I hear it can be worse than heroine.

Stick to the roids they will be cheaper and healthier in the long run.
I have had friends tell me gear was dangerous and they smoked.

Let me help you quit. Lung Cancer is a bad way to go. You will feel like you are drowning every day of your life. My Mom died from lung related smoking problems (lung cancer in the cervix mastasizeing), My Grandfather diet of enphesima (sp).
You dont want to go from cancer, I have heard of people moaning in pain and they were in a coma.

Greyphantom · 27-05-2004, 07:09 PM

Smoking also reduces the amount of b12 you have in your body and thus will depress the appetite... when you stop your b12 levels increase and this is why so many people start eating more... good for you for stopping mate.. the only habit which I will openly condemn...

philipebrown · 28-05-2004, 09:45 AM

i take your point lads, what i was actually looking for was info that stated that smoking made it harder to lose weight because of decreased aerobic ability and reduced oxygen intake and bad circulation!

guess ive answered my own question then, ha ha

philipebrown · 28-05-2004, 09:46 AM

As for the patches scott, they are quite strong and are for people on 20-40 a day. im not really a heavy smoker so using these might increase my addiction for nicotine, so maybe im best going cold turkey

Greyphantom · 28-05-2004, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by philipebrown

i take your point lads, what i was actually looking for was info that stated that smoking made it harder to lose weight because of decreased aerobic ability and reduced oxygen intake and bad circulation!

guess ive answered my own question then, ha ha

Actually smoking is what some people do to control thier weight and lose... because of smokings affect on the levels of b12 and thus decreasing appetite... most people actually are of lower weight when smoking than when they quit... so even though it fcuks your cardio/respitory system it still makes weight loss slightly easier... but exercise harder...

philipebrown · 28-05-2004, 11:03 AM

i get ya, i dont mean to be deliberatley contradicting you mate, but i think its a misconception held by people who dont smoke that smokers find it easy to lose weight. I have smoked for about 10 years and have always been really fat with a massive appetite! i honestly dont find that it suppresses my appetite, mite just be me tho, were all different.

philipebrown · 28-05-2004, 11:08 AM

when i have given up in the past i havnt had a bigger appettite, ive just eaten more to replace the habbitt. Seriously, you wouldnt believe how it feels when you havnt got a cigarette in your hand. I find it impossible when i go for a night out because i dont know what to do with myslef and all the extra spare time i have, so i end up eating peanuts just to do something with my hands, lol. if you think about it, a cigarette passes a good 5-8 minutes where you dont have to engage in conversion and can just chill out. times that by 10-15 and youve got an extra hour that your constantly fidgeting. what an awful addiction.

**Aftershock** · 28-05-2004, 11:42 AM

Why dont u try the nicotine chewing gums Phil?

philipebrown · 28-05-2004, 01:00 PM

chewing gum doesnt go very nice with a pint of guiness ha ha

**Aftershock** · 28-05-2004, 01:35 PM

true, but guiness wont help your weight loss either ;-) and it makes ur crap black!!!

but u got to have something in life havent u........

philipebrown · 28-05-2004, 01:37 PM

its better for you than lager, and 5 pints a week aint gonna hurt me too much, after a week of torture youve gotta have a little release on a weekend!

**Aftershock** · 28-05-2004, 02:23 PM

Ur making me thirsty... Carling Premier for me though...lol...

27-05-2004, 01:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
philipebrown Looking Freaky Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: north east Posts: 924	smoking, fat loss and bodybuilding Okay, Im in for a real flaming on this one. I have smoked for years now, and not even the fact that I am in pursuit of the perfoct body can stop me from continuing this complete waste of time and money! (smoking that is, not training!) I am planning seriously to give up smoking when i return from my holiday. It helps me to have a date in mind to set myself up for. As a matter of interest, and I would like to invite Scott to answer this one (Oh wise one) What is the effect of smoking on a person trying to lose fat? (negative I assume, but lets get technical!) Also any other suggestions about how this habbit affects any aspect of bodybuilding including steroid use?

27-05-2004, 02:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
Aftershock UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,057	How many u smoke a day Phil?

27-05-2004, 03:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
philipebrown Looking Freaky Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: north east Posts: 924	about 6, few more on a saturday night if im out for a pint

27-05-2004, 06:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 24,337	I think smoking does help to lose weight, but at a cost. Hey, nicotine is a stimulant, but there are many things in cigarettes, even stuff to keep the tobacco from going out (like fuel):( Do it the easy rout and do the patches. Lots of friends quit using the patches. Even 2 pack a day guys. Unfornutaly smoking might be one of the stronger substances for addiction, I hear it can be worse than heroine. Stick to the roids they will be cheaper and healthier in the long run. I have had friends tell me gear was dangerous and they smoked. Let me help you quit. Lung Cancer is a bad way to go. You will feel like you are drowning every day of your life. My Mom died from lung related smoking problems (lung cancer in the cervix mastasizeing), My Grandfather diet of enphesima (sp). You dont want to go from cancer, I have heard of people moaning in pain and they were in a coma.

27-05-2004, 07:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
Greyphantom Getting HUGE! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: London Posts: 1,903	Smoking also reduces the amount of b12 you have in your body and thus will depress the appetite... when you stop your b12 levels increase and this is why so many people start eating more... good for you for stopping mate.. the only habit which I will openly condemn...

28-05-2004, 09:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
philipebrown Looking Freaky Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: north east Posts: 924	i take your point lads, what i was actually looking for was info that stated that smoking made it harder to lose weight because of decreased aerobic ability and reduced oxygen intake and bad circulation! guess ive answered my own question then, ha ha

28-05-2004, 09:46 AM	#7 (permalink)
philipebrown Looking Freaky Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: north east Posts: 924	As for the patches scott, they are quite strong and are for people on 20-40 a day. im not really a heavy smoker so using these might increase my addiction for nicotine, so maybe im best going cold turkey

28-05-2004, 11:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
philipebrown Looking Freaky Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: north east Posts: 924	i get ya, i dont mean to be deliberatley contradicting you mate, but i think its a misconception held by people who dont smoke that smokers find it easy to lose weight. I have smoked for about 10 years and have always been really fat with a massive appetite! i honestly dont find that it suppresses my appetite, mite just be me tho, were all different.

28-05-2004, 11:08 AM	#10 (permalink)
philipebrown Looking Freaky Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: north east Posts: 924	when i have given up in the past i havnt had a bigger appettite, ive just eaten more to replace the habbitt. Seriously, you wouldnt believe how it feels when you havnt got a cigarette in your hand. I find it impossible when i go for a night out because i dont know what to do with myslef and all the extra spare time i have, so i end up eating peanuts just to do something with my hands, lol. if you think about it, a cigarette passes a good 5-8 minutes where you dont have to engage in conversion and can just chill out. times that by 10-15 and youve got an extra hour that your constantly fidgeting. what an awful addiction.

28-05-2004, 11:42 AM	#11 (permalink)
Aftershock UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,057	Why dont u try the nicotine chewing gums Phil?

28-05-2004, 01:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
philipebrown Looking Freaky Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: north east Posts: 924	chewing gum doesnt go very nice with a pint of guiness ha ha

28-05-2004, 01:35 PM	#13 (permalink)
Aftershock UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,057	true, but guiness wont help your weight loss either ;-) and it makes ur crap black!!! but u got to have something in life havent u........

28-05-2004, 01:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
philipebrown Looking Freaky Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: north east Posts: 924	its better for you than lager, and 5 pints a week aint gonna hurt me too much, after a week of torture youve gotta have a little release on a weekend!

28-05-2004, 02:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
Aftershock UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,057	Ur making me thirsty... Carling Premier for me though...lol...