Aftershock

I have a question re Leptin levels

Does Leptin decrease as a result of being in a calorie deficet or is it more intrinsicly linked to low carbs levels?

You see if it is more a factor of low carb levels would it be more beneficial to increase the carbs even further on high carb days at the expense of protein and fats?

Lets say your standard high carb day was 300p 300c 85f you could for example do approx 290p 400c 45f with the same total calorie intake. Would this be more efficient at increasing Leptin levels?

toxictoffee

ok

leptin is influenced by hunger and not giving the body enough calories

now, leptin is not though increased efficiently by either protein or fat based meals

carbs bring it into action

so have a refeed that is carbless when hypocaloric after a long period and you are selling yourself short...have a high carb day, lower protein and fat and you do better

Aftershock

Thanks TT.

I notice in the article that the fats and protein are left at a static level each day. Is this for the sake of simplicity? This manipulation discussed above on the re-feed days is just a further evolution of the underlying principles?

toxictoffee

TBH protein levels never need to be high

its not a keto diet so you dont need to go high on fats as you dont induce ketosis

you simply push the body towards fasting and then pull it back

crank the other macros up and you hinder deficit

protein intake is over rated, nobody needs much TBH

PokerGenius

Excellent read and well worth a bump.

Love the list of food stuffs too. Just in the middle scrawling in a food diary. Anyone know any links with what % of nutrients is in those types of foods

Ecksarmy11

Great thread.
Can't believe I missed this first time round.

warren_1987

excellent read and put me in a much better position to shift some built up excess fat left over from my bulk im on atm.

top read

CK1

Thats a good old article! didnt read it all on MT and now its gone and well worth a bump so...

gonna give it a bush on next cut, one Q tho if anyone has any opinions on it?

i do most of my training sat-mon so would look like this according to the rules set out(i think?)

Saturday – High carbs - back, calves
Sunday – low carbs - chest, bis
Monday – High carbs - legs,abs
Tuesday – no carbs
Wednesday – low carbs - shoulders,tris
Thursday – no carbs
Friday – low carbs


but would it not be better to switch monday and sunday perhaps, leaving me fully refueled for the bulk of my training? (even tho this would go against the no 2 high days back to back)

cheers

Geo

Paul i think you should change your Name(Pscarb) to (Fountain of Knowledge).

What a great Read.

Geo

Team1

Do guys get into the nitty gritty when counting carbs on a diet like above? If your eating plenty veg and nuts for instance, you are getting a fair bit of carbs besides any of the more "pure" sources of cho

Good article

Cheers

Pscarb

yes you are correct but some veg are negative calories as in it takes more calories to digest the food than the food gives you....

Pscarb

first thing is i would not go zero carbs unless you are following a full keto style diet which this is not, secondly you are trying to cut fat so it is best to not have high energy when you are training bigger bodyparts a better routine would be...
Saturday – Med Carbs- back, calves
Sunday – High Carbs- chest, bis
Monday – Low Carbs- legs,abs
Tuesday – Low Carbs
Wednesday – Med Carbs- shoulders,tris
Thursday – Low Carbs
Friday – Low Carbs
let the fat you have fuel your workouts not the carbs you eat

CK1

thank you pscarb

that makes sense and should be easier to hack. I have not tried cycling before, normally just have a static number (this leads to big carb sessions that knock me back)

for the sake of argument, sticking with the 200lb guy example. Would you still have the carbs as follows or different?

High days= 1.5-1.75g per lb = 300-350 carbs
Low days= 0.75-1g per lb = 150-200 carbs

and Medium = 1-1.25g per lb = 200-250 carbs ?

(if you’ve typed all this before feel free to jus link me)

Pscarb

i would raise the high day to 3g per lb half that on the medium day then half that amount for the low day this would be a good place to start

firefly

Can females use this carb cycle? If so, would I need to change much or just plug in my weight and go from there?