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AdZ9 · 21-05-2007, 03:00 PM

DB thats what they said on the documentary, i have it recorded i'll check it again tonight.

Don't just "laugh" at me i'm just posting what they said on the program.

AdZ9 · 21-05-2007, 03:03 PM

Here, just so everyone doesn't think i was just "making" it up

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/progra...builders.shtml

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Think of bodybuilders and you'll probably imagine someone the wrong side of 30 in revealing swimwear. Danny, Jack and Chapelle have the swimwear, but they are all teenagers.

This film looks at the reasons these teens want to leave behind the usual teen fashion obsessions and instead concentrate on getting their bodies so pumped, they risk looking gross and unnatural.

17-year-old Danny left school a year ago and his time is dedicated to becoming Mr Cumbria. If he can't win this contest, then he has no chance of competing in the Mr Universe competition. We find out the lengths he goes to in order to get the look he craves so much.

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Then the way he eat after the mr cumbria competition 2 massive bowls of chinese my gf couldnt believe it and u have to give him credit for getting 4th in mr universe awesome stuff.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/c...mage_diet_16x9

thats a link which shows clips i think (cant view at work!) But just showing that i'm just posting what I saw/heard and read on another forum!

chrisj22 · 21-05-2007, 03:15 PM

Yes, he got 4th in the Universe - not first.

AdZ9 · 21-05-2007, 03:31 PM

I didnt say he got first though?

I said he got 4th, he got first in the mr cumbira and then 1st in the under 23 section first of all they said on the documentary. I said he came 4th in the end, check my post (no i haven't edited it!)

Lee1 · 21-05-2007, 09:19 PM

Just bought a load of white fish including haddock, cod and coley and some organic rice cakes. Judging by the extremely low fat and calorie contents of the fish fillets (around 80Kcal/17g protein per fillet), I guess I'll be having 2 fillets per serving and six servings a day, Correct?

Also there is only 20kcal per slice of rice cake. So how many of these per sitting?

Oliver, Asda is a bit out of the way so I'll go there on the weekend? What fish did you buy for cheap?

DB · 21-05-2007, 09:27 PM

why rice cakes ffs!

they are practically sugar on the GI index!!

shocking choice of carb imo

megatron · 21-05-2007, 09:43 PM

Lee1, take the advice of the experts on this board - who have already slated the diet as just plain bad; Yes the guy may have done well, but how much better wuld he have done with a real diet?

You can't honestly think that eating the same thing 6 times a day is good for you? I'm sorry if I come across as patronising - but there are alot better bodybuilders on this forum than a 17 year old guy who eats a terrible diet, you would do well to plan a more varied diet under some informed guidance.

Lee1 · 21-05-2007, 10:28 PM

Megatron,

Thank you for the advice and I totally agree with you about eating fish/ricecakes all day long is unhealthy and cannot be maintained.

However, I just wanted to try this for 14 days to see if I could burn as much body fat as possible then continue with a good diet of 2500Kcal consisting of high protein, good complex carbs/fats, fruit and vegetables.

I personally did not know where he got the energy to train on just fish/water/rice?

Lee.

ah24 · 21-05-2007, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee1

However, I just wanted to try this for 14 days to see if I could burn as much body fat as possible then continue with a good diet of 2500Kcal consisting of high protein, good complex carbs/fats, fruit and vegetables.

Lee.

Mate, whats the point in it then? Unless you increase the carbs gradually you will just bloat and go back to how you are now. If your doing it purely to see what it does then go for it, if your wanting it to make a difference to your physique in the long run - forget it!

Also, as i previously said, make sure you supplement well with multi-vit tabs.

leeston · 22-05-2007, 07:40 AM

I remember seeing this program when it was on the telly. Is it the one with that lad who is out of work. When he describes his meals he says:

I will wake up and have fish and a rice cake, after that I will have fish, folowed by fish and a rice cake, then I will have fish, followed by fish, then fish and a rice cake............... that bit made me laugh.

As for the diet, it is seriously lacking in ideas!!!! It is devoid of any decent nutrients and peronally I would not do it for more than a few days.

SportDr · 22-05-2007, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinytom

Jay Cutler dieted for the Olympia on white fish until he got down to a weight he was happy with then he put back in some animal meats.

White fish is just about as pure protein meal as you can eat but totally tasteless.

Absolutely! Cod is the best quality over quantity meat you can eat.

SD

SportDr · 22-05-2007, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee1

Hi - I saw a documentary on TV recently where a young lad for competing for a contest. He needed to drop 2 stones and his two week diet was simply Fish every two hours with rice cakes every four hours.

What would happen if you did this solid for two weeks (with plenty of water) then continued your healthy balanced diet as normal? Would it be a complete waste of time?

Goal would be to shed as much body fat as possible in the quickest amount of time.

I do 20 mins high intensity interval training 6 times a week and weights 3 times a week.

Thanks.

This is a low carb low fat diet, the carbs that are present are low High GI. There are a lot of nutritional deficiencies here, fibre being the obvious one, this is the same kid that drank white wine to dehydrate right? For a short term diet, it would do little damage although getting your digestion back online may take a while, however, it isn't for the faint hearted as its very dull and the carb depletion will make you feel like cr@p. Try it and you will see.

Nutrition Information : Pacific cod
(cooked, dry heat) Per 100g

Water (g/100g) 76
Food Energy (Calories) (kcal/100g) 105
Protein (g/100g) 22.95
Total Lipid (fat) (g/100g) 0.81
Ash (g/100g) 1.54
Carbohydrate (g/100g) 0
Total Dietary Fibre (g/100g) 0
Total Sugars (g/100g) N/A
Calcium (mg/100g) 9
Iron (mg/100g) 0.33
Magnesium (mg/100g) 31
Phosphorus (mg/100g) 223
Potassium (mg/100g) 517
Sodium (mg/100g) 91
Zinc (mg/100g) 0.51
Copper(mg/100g) 0.033
Manganese (mg/100g) 0.015
Selenium (µ/100g) 46.8
Vitamin C (mg/100g) 3
Thiamin (mg/100g) 0.025
Riboflavin (mg/100g) 0.051
Niacin (mg/100g) 2.485
Pantothenic Acid (mg/100g) 0.162
Vitamin B6 (mg/100g) 0.462
Folate (µg/100g) 8
Folic Acid (µg/100g) 0
Food Folate (µg/100g) 8
Folate (Dietary Folate Equivalents/100g) 8
Vitamin B12 (µg/100g) 1.04
Vitamin A (µg/100g) 32
Vitamin A (IU/100g) 10
Retinol (µg/100g) 10
Vitamin E (µg/100g) N/A
Vitamin K (µg/100g) N/A
Alpha-carotene (µg/100g) N/A
Beta-carotene (µg/100g) N/A
Beta-crytoxanthin (µg/100g) N/A
Lycopene (µg/100g) N/A
Lutein & Zeazanthin (µg/100g) N/A
Saturated Fatty Acid (g/100g) 0.104
Monosaturated Fatty Acids (g/100g) 0.105
Polyunsaturated Fatty Acids (g/100g) 0.313

Nutrition Information : Rice cakes
(brown rice, buckwheat, unsalted) per 100g (a single rice cake is a little over 13g!)

Water (g/100g) 5.9
Food Energy (Calories) (kcal/100g) 380
Protein (g/100g) 9
Total Lipid (fat) (g/100g) 3.5
Ash (g/100g) 1.6
Carbohydrate (g/100g) 80.1
Total Dietary Fibre (g/100g) N/A
Total Sugars (g/100g) N/A
Calcium (mg/100g) 11
Iron (mg/100g) 1.14
Magnesium (mg/100g) 151
Phosphorus (mg/100g) 380
Potassium (mg/100g) 299
Sodium (mg/100g) 4
Zinc (mg/100g) 2.5
Copper(mg/100g) 0.38
Manganese (mg/100g) 6.18
Selenium (µ/100g) 16.4
Vitamin C (mg/100g) 0
Thiamin (mg/100g) 0.056
Riboflavin (mg/100g) 0.103
Niacin (mg/100g) 8.096
Pantothenic Acid (mg/100g) 1.16
Vitamin B6 (mg/100g) 0.13
Folate (µg/100g) 21
Folic Acid (µg/100g) 0
Food Folate (µg/100g) 21
Folate (Dietary Folate Equivalents/100g) 21
Vitamin B12 (µg/100g) 0
Vitamin A (µg/100g) 0
Vitamin A (IU/100g) 0
Retinol (µg/100g) 0
Vitamin E (µg/100g) N/A
Vitamin K (µg/100g) N/A
Alpha-carotene (µg/100g) N/A
Beta-carotene (µg/100g) N/A
Beta-crytoxanthin (µg/100g) N/A
Lycopene (µg/100g) N/A
Lutein & Zeazanthin (µg/100g) N/A
Saturated Fatty Acid (g/100g) 0.64
Monosaturated Fatty Acids (g/100g) 1.11
Polyunsaturated Fatty Acids (g/100g) 1.11

To get a diet of 2500 cals you are gonna need to eat a lot of cod fella! ABout 250g Cod and two rice cakes per sitting 6 x per day would do it.

SD

Ollie B · 22-05-2007, 08:34 AM

i could imagine how depleted i would feel.

leeston · 22-05-2007, 12:57 PM

oh my cod that is not rice.

sorry, I am treateing that diet with the same contempt it deserves!!!!!

shorty · 22-05-2007, 01:57 PM

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leeston: oh my cod that is not rice.

^^^^ hahaha....

i would skip the rice cakes and replace it with some good sweet potato or wholemeal rice with plenty of veg!! that will be far better for you!

i think alot of people will have watched that doc and think thats how to get like him!! .... utter sh*t!!!

your choice tho!! :crazy:

21-05-2007, 03:00 PM	#16 (permalink)
AdZ9 Newbie Trainer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: West Sussex Posts: 30	Re: Extreme Cutting - Fish and Rice cakes DB thats what they said on the documentary, i have it recorded i'll check it again tonight. Don't just "laugh" at me i'm just posting what they said on the program.

21-05-2007, 03:15 PM	#18 (permalink)
chrisj22 An absolute fat bastard Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: T'up North Posts: 3,331	Re: Extreme Cutting - Fish and Rice cakes Yes, he got 4th in the Universe - not first.

21-05-2007, 03:31 PM	#19 (permalink)
AdZ9 Newbie Trainer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: West Sussex Posts: 30	Re: Extreme Cutting - Fish and Rice cakes I didnt say he got first though? I said he got 4th, he got first in the mr cumbira and then 1st in the under 23 section first of all they said on the documentary. I said he came 4th in the end, check my post (no i haven't edited it!)

21-05-2007, 09:19 PM	#20 (permalink)
Lee1 Newbie Trainer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 29	Re: Extreme Cutting - Fish and Rice cakes Just bought a load of white fish including haddock, cod and coley and some organic rice cakes. Judging by the extremely low fat and calorie contents of the fish fillets (around 80Kcal/17g protein per fillet), I guess I'll be having 2 fillets per serving and six servings a day, Correct? Also there is only 20kcal per slice of rice cake. So how many of these per sitting? Oliver, Asda is a bit out of the way so I'll go there on the weekend? What fish did you buy for cheap?

21-05-2007, 09:27 PM	#21 (permalink)
DB UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SW London Posts: 11,762	Re: Extreme Cutting - Fish and Rice cakes why rice cakes ffs! they are practically sugar on the GI index!! shocking choice of carb imo __________________ Affiliate of Bulk Supplements Direct Discount Code= BSD290 UKBFF southcoast 2008, O80kg Champion

21-05-2007, 09:43 PM	#22 (permalink)
megatron Just ignore him Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,105	Re: Extreme Cutting - Fish and Rice cakes Lee1, take the advice of the experts on this board - who have already slated the diet as just plain bad; Yes the guy may have done well, but how much better wuld he have done with a real diet? You can't honestly think that eating the same thing 6 times a day is good for you? I'm sorry if I come across as patronising - but there are alot better bodybuilders on this forum than a 17 year old guy who eats a terrible diet, you would do well to plan a more varied diet under some informed guidance.

21-05-2007, 10:28 PM	#23 (permalink)
Lee1 Newbie Trainer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 29	Re: Extreme Cutting - Fish and Rice cakes Megatron, Thank you for the advice and I totally agree with you about eating fish/ricecakes all day long is unhealthy and cannot be maintained. However, I just wanted to try this for 14 days to see if I could burn as much body fat as possible then continue with a good diet of 2500Kcal consisting of high protein, good complex carbs/fats, fruit and vegetables. I personally did not know where he got the energy to train on just fish/water/rice? Lee.

22-05-2007, 07:40 AM	#25 (permalink)
leeston Any more chicken and I will start clucking!! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Birmingham, West Midlandshire Posts: 2,400	Re: Extreme Cutting - Fish and Rice cakes I remember seeing this program when it was on the telly. Is it the one with that lad who is out of work. When he describes his meals he says: I will wake up and have fish and a rice cake, after that I will have fish, folowed by fish and a rice cake, then I will have fish, followed by fish, then fish and a rice cake............... that bit made me laugh. As for the diet, it is seriously lacking in ideas!!!! It is devoid of any decent nutrients and peronally I would not do it for more than a few days.

22-05-2007, 08:34 AM	#28 (permalink)
Ollie B UK-M's treadmill dodger! Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,629	Re: Extreme Cutting - Fish and Rice cakes i could imagine how depleted i would feel.

22-05-2007, 12:57 PM	#29 (permalink)
leeston Any more chicken and I will start clucking!! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Birmingham, West Midlandshire Posts: 2,400	Re: Extreme Cutting - Fish and Rice cakes oh my cod that is not rice. sorry, I am treateing that diet with the same contempt it deserves!!!!!

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