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Old 14-05-2007, 09:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey all!

You might remember a couple of months back I made my introductory post, I stuck to my original plan for a while but slowly but surely got dragged off of it! I got disheartened from thinking I hadn't planned it all correctly and found it hard to keep on top of the planning.

I've redone my plan and I really need some advice and guidance to help me stay on track this time!

My Diet Plan now looks like this!

Cardio 6am

45min Cycle Ride at 70% HR

Breakfast - /7am

1 x Omega-3 Fish Oil Concentrate Capsule
1 x Multivitamin + Ginseng
1 x 30g Sachet Oatmeal + 200ml Semi-Skimmed Milk = 204 cal / 9.9g P / 27.6g C / 8.5g F
1 x Med Banana = 100cal / 20.9 Sugar / 0.3 F
1 x Scoop Whey = 93 cal / 19.5g P / 0.9g C / 1.3g F

Total: 397 cal / 29.4g P / 28.5g C / 10.1g F

Snack - 9.30/10am

1 x MyProtein Meal Replacement (Strawberry) = 363 cal / 42.6g P / 41.1g C / 3.3g F
25g Serving Nuts = 175 cal / 4.3g P / 0.8g C / 17.1g F

Total: 538 cal / 46.9g Pro / 41.9g C / 20.4g F

Lunch/Pre-Workout - 12/12.30pm

75g Brown Rice/Pasta = 265 cal / 5.2g P / 55.5g C / 2.1g F
100g Grilled Chicken = 160 cal / 33.3g P / 0g C / 2.7g F
Serving of Sala (Lettuce, Carrott, Cucumber, Tomatoe)

Total: 425 cal / 38.5g P / 55.5g C / 4.8g F

WORKOUT - 1-2pm

PWO - 2/2.30pm

25g Oatmeal = 82.5 cal / 3g P / 13.25g C / 1.9g F
2 Scoops Whey = 186 cal / 39g P / 1.8g C / 2.6g F
1 x Med Banana = 100 cal / 20.9 Sugar / 0.3g F
1 x Apple = 81 cal / 0.2g P / 0.4g F

Total: 449 cal / 42.2g P / 15.5g C / 5.2g F

Dinner - 5.30/6pm

100g Grilled Chicken = 160 cal / 33.3g P / 0g C / 2.7g F
100g Broccoli = 30 cal / 3.3g P / 2.3g C / 0.9g F
50g Vegetables (Carrot/Peas/Sweetcorn)

Total: 190 cal / 36.9g P / 2.3g C / 3.6g F

Bedtime - 9/9.30pm

1 x Scoop Whey = 93 cal / 19.5g P / 0.9g C / 1.3g F

Total: 93 cal / 19.5g P / 0.9g C / 1.3g F

Daily Total: 2092 Calories / 213.4g Protein / 144.6g Carbohydrates / 45.4g Fats

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Now i'm having trouble in the dinner area, as I need to gain another 300 calories from somewhere, and by the looks of it another 40/50g of Carbs too somewhere but preferablly not around dinner time as i'm losing fat.

My current stats are:
Age: 21
Height: 5ft 11"
Weight: 191lbs (88kg)
Bodyfat: 23%+

My BMR stats worked out as:

BMR x Activity = 2028.8 x 1.55 = 3144.64
Calorie Deficit to lose weight = 3144 - 750 = 2394 Cal Per Day
(I want to lose around 1/1.5lbs fat a week)

My workout plan is currently
Mon: Legs (Quads/Calves) & Abs
Tues: Chest & Triceps
Wed: Easy Swim
Thurs: Back & Biceps
Friday: Shoulders & Abs
Saturday: 45min Cycle During Day
Sunday: 45min Cycle During Day

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I'm looking for some guidance to gain the calories/carbs I need and any flaws in my plan if possible please. My original thread I didn't keep bumped so didn't get much response. Any help is much appreciated and greatly needed, I feel like i'm overloading myself trying to work it all out!

Also is there anyone on the board around the West Sussex area? I'm looking to meet up/pay someone to go through some stuff with me and show me some stuff as I wasted £30 for an hours PT session and he knew nothing about BBing and basically put me on a plan where I would lose all my muscle!

Many thanks in advance!

Adam!
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Hey all!

You might remember a couple of months back I made my introductory post, I stuck to my original plan for a while but slowly but surely got dragged off of it! I got disheartened from thinking I hadn't planned it all correctly and found it hard to keep on top of the planning.

I've redone my plan and I really need some advice and guidance to help me stay on track this time!

My Diet Plan now looks like this!

You need 5g Glutamine and 5g BCAA here to prevent catabolism during cardio.

Cardio 6am

45min Cycle Ride at 70% HR

Breakfast - /7am

1 x Omega-3 Fish Oil Concentrate Capsule
1 x Multivitamin + Ginseng This should be 2x multivit
1 x 30g Sachet Oatmeal + 200ml Semi-Skimmed Milk = 204 cal / 9.9g P / 27.6g C / 8.5g F You could up the Oatmeal here to increase calories.
1 x Med Banana = 100cal / 20.9 Sugar / 0.3 F
1 x Scoop Whey = 93 cal / 19.5g P / 0.9g C / 1.3g F

Total: 397 cal / 29.4g P / 28.5g C / 10.1g F

Snack - 9.30/10am

1 x MyProtein Meal Replacement (Strawberry) = 363 cal / 42.6g P / 41.1g C / 3.3g F
25g Serving Nuts = 175 cal / 4.3g P / 0.8g C / 17.1g F

Total: 538 cal / 46.9g Pro / 41.9g C / 20.4g F

Lunch/Pre-Workout - 12/12.30pm

75g Brown Rice/Pasta = 265 cal / 5.2g P / 55.5g C / 2.1g F
100g Grilled Chicken = 160 cal / 33.3g P / 0g C / 2.7g F
Serving of Sala (Lettuce, Carrott, Cucumber, Tomatoe)

Total: 425 cal / 38.5g P / 55.5g C / 4.8g F

WORKOUT - 1-2pm 5g Glutamine here

DB does an extra 25mins cardio here when cutting.

PWO - 2/2.30pm

2 Scoops Whey = 186 cal / 39g P / 1.8g C / 2.6g F
1 x Med Banana = 100 cal / 20.9 Sugar / 0.3g F Split PWO into two meals, one straight after training and the other (below) 30 minutes later.

25g Oatmeal = 82.5 cal / 3g P / 13.25g C / 1.9g F
1 x Apple = 81 cal / 0.2g P / 0.4g F

Total: 449 cal / 42.2g P / 15.5g C / 5.2g F

Dinner - 5.30/6pm

100g Grilled Chicken = 160 cal / 33.3g P / 0g C / 2.7g F Could increase your lean meat to 200g here.
100g Broccoli = 30 cal / 3.3g P / 2.3g C / 0.9g F
50g Vegetables (Carrot/Peas/Sweetcorn)

Total: 190 cal / 36.9g P / 2.3g C / 3.6g F

Bedtime - 9/9.30pm

1 x Scoop Whey = 93 cal / 19.5g P / 0.9g C / 1.3g F Add cottage cheese to this shake to add calories and cassien protein which digests slower than whey. Whey and water won't last long in digestion.

Total: 93 cal / 19.5g P / 0.9g C / 1.3g F

Daily Total: 2092 Calories / 213.4g Protein / 144.6g Carbohydrates / 45.4g Fats

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Now i'm having trouble in the dinner area, as I need to gain another 300 calories from somewhere, and by the looks of it another 40/50g of Carbs too somewhere but preferablly not around dinner time as i'm losing fat.

My current stats are:
Age: 21
Height: 5ft 11"
Weight: 191lbs (88kg)
Bodyfat: 23%+

My BMR stats worked out as:
BMR x Activity = 2028.8 x 1.55 = 3144.64
Calorie Deficit to lose weight = 3144 - 750 = 2394 Cal Per Day
(I want to lose around 1/1.5lbs fat a week)

My workout plan is currently
Mon: Legs (Quads/Calves) & Abs
Tues: Chest & Triceps
Wed: Easy Swim
Thurs: Back & Biceps
Friday: Shoulders & Abs
Saturday: 45min Cycle During Day
Sunday: 45min Cycle During Day

------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm looking for some guidance to gain the calories/carbs I need and any flaws in my plan if possible please. My original thread I didn't keep bumped so didn't get much response. Any help is much appreciated and greatly needed, I feel like i'm overloading myself trying to work it all out!

Also is there anyone on the board around the West Sussex area? I'm looking to meet up/pay someone to go through some stuff with me and show me some stuff as I wasted £30 for an hours PT session and he knew nothing about BBing and basically put me on a plan where I would lose all my muscle!

Many thanks in advance!

Adam!
Hey Adam,
Good concise post with plenty of detail that says you have done your homework, all you need now is the commitment! Don't get too hung up on getting the 'perfect' diet, it never works out that way unless you are 100% commited and you need a life too mate unless you plan to compete.

I have given you plenty of ideas there on your diet, use those and formulate a plan with defined goals. Stick to those goals and test yourself regularly.

I live in Eastbourne East Sussex if thats any help.

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Hey SportDR

Thanks alot for your input, its really appreciated! Could you point me in the direction of where to get the glutamine/bcaa from please? I'm guessing they are capsules or powder that i mix and drink/swallow?

I've re-adjusted it to add another 100g chicken in my dinner meal as I realised how small 100g really is last night! To get 200g cooked chicken I need to be cooking around 350-400g fresh chicken don't I? I've split my PWO now just need to see if the cafe at work will let me use their microwave for my oatmeal! I usually blend it in with my PWO whey shake and drink it like that!

Yeh in all honesty sometimes I finish my weights with 15-20min spare which is where I do some extra cardio to make up the time!

I've realised i'm not going to get my meal plan perfect straight away but i'm the type of person that needs a plan to follow otherwise i'll give up easier so i'm trying to nail it down a little bit at first! I really do need to set some realistic goals to as "lose weight" doesn't really class as one!

Thanks alot for your input SportDR

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Thanks alot for your input, its really appreciated! Could you point me in the direction of where to get the glutamine/bcaa from please? I'm guessing they are capsules or powder that i mix and drink/swallow? Definately go for www.myprotein.co.uk, they are well priced and a good product, MP are really impressing me lately! You need the L-Glutamine powder, which mixes well with squash and tastes fine! BCAA doesn't mix with water and tastes rank! so get a capping machine or buy them pre-capped from MP.

I've re-adjusted it to add another 100g chicken in my dinner meal as I realised how small 100g really is last night! To get 200g cooked chicken I need to be cooking around 350-400g fresh chicken don't I? I've split my PWO now just need to see if the cafe at work will let me use their microwave for my oatmeal! I usually blend it in with my PWO whey shake and drink it like that! Yeh, cheap chicken is filled with salt, dextrose and water, its a con really.

Yeh in all honesty sometimes I finish my weights with 15-20min spare which is where I do some extra cardio to make up the time!

I've realised i'm not going to get my meal plan perfect straight away but i'm the type of person that needs a plan to follow otherwise i'll give up easier so i'm trying to nail it down a little bit at first! I really do need to set some realistic goals to as "lose weight" doesn't really class as one!

Thanks alot for your input SportDR

Adam
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Once again SportDR you've been a legend!

I just ordered my MRP from MYP yesterday, first time i've used them but looks promising, going to look on there now for the Glutamine and BCAAs!

Thanks alot for your help!

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Oh also forgot my bad, the Glutamine and BCAAs won't hinder my weight loss will they? I'm looking to lose around 20lbs (got a beer belly). I'm guessing they won't else you wouldn't of mentioned them
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Indeed, hes a legend! has motivated me more now that I know I have a solid/stable plan to follow now!

I've decided Sunday is going to be my rest day though were I don't do anything. And because I won't be training I obviously need lower calories so I'm going to stick with my original plan pretty much before Doc gave me tips, that way i\ll be having 2000 calories on my off day.
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Mate your body needs a rest....

Don't adjust your calories too drastically just because you aren't training, you might benefit from a 'car up' day too.
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