All carbohydrates are not created equal! - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

**hackskii** · 21-04-2004, 03:25 AM

Well briefly all carbs are not created equal.
Some people have no problems what so ever with carbohydrates. Others do. About 1/3 of all people have problems with carbohydrates spiking blood sugar levels. When this happens insulin raises to accommodate the rise in blood sugar and insulin is a storage hormone. Of all the hormones if there were a tug of war insulin would win. So insulin’s job is to store that last meal (high blood sugar) as fat. The problem with that is this. When the insulin stores that last meal as fat the brain calls for more carbohydrates because the brain did not get any carbohydrates. Your brain is the single biggest carbohydrate hog in the body. Carbohydrates store in muscle tissue and the liver but if the brain is starving for the carbs and the last meal stored them as fat then you will eat again. Well guess what if you are spiking your blood sugars again with carbohydrates the insulin will rise again and store that meal as fat as well.
To slow down the spiking of blood sugars there are a number of things you can do like:
1. eat carbs low in the glycemic index.
2. eat a protein, fat and fiber with the carbs.
3. keep the carbs pretty low.
4. carbs exit the stomach really fast and if you eat a protein with it you will get more stable blood sugars. By doing that you will not get sleepy after a meal, have more constant energy and get carbohydrate cravings which is not good. There is actually people that have an addiction to carbohydrates. Now that can be a problem especially if the carbs are high in the glycemic index and you are prone to spiking of blood sugars. Also after prolonged periods of time the pancreas gets kind of worn out and you can be a candidate of Type 2 diabetes.
So if you are prone to that kindof condition modification of the diet might be in order if you want to keep the weight down. Remember later on in life your metabolism will slow and some point in time you will need to modify it.

demon · 21-04-2004, 10:41 AM

That's a great post Hackskii.
I never really understood the whole glycemic index / insulin / fat storage thing.
But now I do!
And I also find I get a bit sleepy after meals too; I know why now.
Thanks.

Jock · 22-04-2004, 11:51 AM

Nice post hackskii

dudeson · 14-05-2007, 03:55 AM

Here's a big problem that I am currently dealing with. I am trying to really lose wieght and limit my carbs, especially at night. However, I workout in the evening around 8pm so my post workout meal usually consists of a lot of protein and very little if any carbs. I know I need to be consuming carbs, especially after my workout but i need to know what kinds of carbs would be the best if im trying to cut weight.
Here's my post workout meal.: Whey shake, 25g protein in nonfat milk, 1 large chicken breast, or two servings of fish, or two turkey burgers, a serving ofveggies, and a serving of fruit. Any feedback would be great. Thanks

dudeson · 14-05-2007, 04:29 AM

and 20 minutes after I posted that reply.....my chick surprises me and shows up with pizza..........and cinnamon sticks, ...................and I gorged out on both:(

Mr Chef · 14-05-2007, 10:04 AM

i'm no expert but is the portion of fruit you have just carbohydrate in the form of sugar? this is not going to be the best for weight control

dudeson · 15-05-2007, 02:54 AM

K well do you have any suggestions for a substitute for the fruit?

murdoch · 07-10-2007, 03:47 PM

this is areally helpfull post . nice one

Wheyhey · 07-10-2007, 03:54 PM

Yep i agree totally, ive found since changing to more lower Gi carbs i can eat more and still maintain my weight, before i was eating more white carbs and easily gaining fat.

cyberheater · 07-11-2007, 09:57 PM

Some additional information from here. Thanks hackskii for the original post.

http://www.glycemicindex.com/

Quote:

How to Switch to a Low GI Diet
The basic technique for eating the low GI way is simply a "this for that" approach - ie, swapping high GI carbs for low GI carbs. You don't need to count numbers or do any sort of mental arithmetic to make sure you are eating a healthy, low GI diet.

Use breakfast cereals based on oats, barley and bran
Use breads with wholegrains, stone-ground flour, sour dough
Reduce the amount of potatoes you eat
Enjoy all other types of fruit and vegetables
Use Basmati or Doongara rice
Enjoy pasta, noodles, quinoa
Eat plenty of salad vegetables with a vinaigrette dressing

21-04-2004, 03:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,632	All carbohydrates are not created equal! Well briefly all carbs are not created equal. Some people have no problems what so ever with carbohydrates. Others do. About 1/3 of all people have problems with carbohydrates spiking blood sugar levels. When this happens insulin raises to accommodate the rise in blood sugar and insulin is a storage hormone. Of all the hormones if there were a tug of war insulin would win. So insulin’s job is to store that last meal (high blood sugar) as fat. The problem with that is this. When the insulin stores that last meal as fat the brain calls for more carbohydrates because the brain did not get any carbohydrates. Your brain is the single biggest carbohydrate hog in the body. Carbohydrates store in muscle tissue and the liver but if the brain is starving for the carbs and the last meal stored them as fat then you will eat again. Well guess what if you are spiking your blood sugars again with carbohydrates the insulin will rise again and store that meal as fat as well. To slow down the spiking of blood sugars there are a number of things you can do like: 1. eat carbs low in the glycemic index. 2. eat a protein, fat and fiber with the carbs. 3. keep the carbs pretty low. 4. carbs exit the stomach really fast and if you eat a protein with it you will get more stable blood sugars. By doing that you will not get sleepy after a meal, have more constant energy and get carbohydrate cravings which is not good. There is actually people that have an addiction to carbohydrates. Now that can be a problem especially if the carbs are high in the glycemic index and you are prone to spiking of blood sugars. Also after prolonged periods of time the pancreas gets kind of worn out and you can be a candidate of Type 2 diabetes. So if you are prone to that kindof condition modification of the diet might be in order if you want to keep the weight down. Remember later on in life your metabolism will slow and some point in time you will need to modify it. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

21-04-2004, 10:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
demon Looking Freaky Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 809	That's a great post Hackskii. I never really understood the whole glycemic index / insulin / fat storage thing. But now I do! And I also find I get a bit sleepy after meals too; I know why now. Thanks. __________________ DEMON "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle

22-04-2004, 11:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
Jock LEAGUE LEGEND! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 3,069	Nice post hackskii __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

14-05-2007, 03:55 AM	#4 (permalink)
dudeson I LIFT TO ESCAPE Join Date: May 2007 Location: Boise Posts: 86	Re: All carbohydrates are not created equal! Here's a big problem that I am currently dealing with. I am trying to really lose wieght and limit my carbs, especially at night. However, I workout in the evening around 8pm so my post workout meal usually consists of a lot of protein and very little if any carbs. I know I need to be consuming carbs, especially after my workout but i need to know what kinds of carbs would be the best if im trying to cut weight. Here's my post workout meal.: Whey shake, 25g protein in nonfat milk, 1 large chicken breast, or two servings of fish, or two turkey burgers, a serving ofveggies, and a serving of fruit. Any feedback would be great. Thanks

14-05-2007, 04:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
dudeson I LIFT TO ESCAPE Join Date: May 2007 Location: Boise Posts: 86	Re: All carbohydrates are not created equal! and 20 minutes after I posted that reply.....my chick surprises me and shows up with pizza..........and cinnamon sticks, ...................and I gorged out on both:(

14-05-2007, 10:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mr Chef Gym Addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 157	Re: All carbohydrates are not created equal! i'm no expert but is the portion of fruit you have just carbohydrate in the form of sugar? this is not going to be the best for weight control

15-05-2007, 02:54 AM	#7 (permalink)
dudeson I LIFT TO ESCAPE Join Date: May 2007 Location: Boise Posts: 86	Re: All carbohydrates are not created equal! K well do you have any suggestions for a substitute for the fruit?

07-10-2007, 03:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
murdoch murdoch Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 22	Re: All carbohydrates are not created equal! this is areally helpfull post . nice one

07-10-2007, 03:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
Wheyhey Newbie Trainer Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 19	Re: All carbohydrates are not created equal! Yep i agree totally, ive found since changing to more lower Gi carbs i can eat more and still maintain my weight, before i was eating more white carbs and easily gaining fat.