Cutting up 3 weeks in - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

Jock · 16-04-2007, 12:53 PM

I've been cutting for just over 2 weeks now. I haven't done any accurate measurements but I have lost approx 3/4 of an inch from my waist (plenty more to lose).
Finished 2 weeks of clen and got up to 120mcg without a problem (GL stuff wrecks me but the stuff I've got seems to be working ok). I've switched to ECA now which works great for me.

Carb Cycling:

Monday: Low
Tuesday: Low
Wednesday: Medium
Thursday: Low
Friday: Low
Saturday: Re-feed
Sunday: Low/Medium

My diet is going well and I'm loving the refeed days but low days look like this:

Low Carb Day

7am: Wake 5g L-Glutamine
40mins cardio
9am: 2 Scoops whey 2tbsp UDO's Oil
11:30am: 3 extra lean mince meatballs
14:30pm: 1 chicken breast (approx 200g) salad 2tbsp Olive Oil
16:30pm: PWO shake or 2 tins of tuna
19:30pm: 200g Lean Steak or Salmon 50-100g Broccoli
21:30pm: 6 eggs scrambled (4 whole + 2 whites)

Medium Days look like this:

7am: Wake 5g L-Glutamine
40mins cardio
9am: 2 Scoops whey 2tbsp UDO's Oil
11:30am: 3 extra lean mince meatballs + handful of mixed seeds (30g).
14:30pm: 1 chicken breast (approx 200g) 100g Basmati Rice
16:30pm: 1-2 tins of tuna.
19:30pm: 200g Lean Steak or Salmon 100g Broccoli + 100g Green Beans
21:30pm: 6 eggs scrambled (4 whole + 2 whites)

Twisted my ankle last weekend playing rugby and it's still giving me trouble, the swelling only really goes down after I go to bed, but if I walk around on it it will swell up again, generally it's pretty stiff but it's getting slowy better.

I'm training back tonight so I'll see how it goes under 180kgs of deadlift!

Weight training is a simple prescription compounds all the way..... (better for rugby)

When my ankle is better and the season is closer I will start some HIIT sprints, but for the moment I'm enjoying watching NRL whilst doing my low-intensity stuff!

DB · 16-04-2007, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jock

I've been cutting for just over 2 weeks now. I haven't done any accurate measurements but I have lost approx 3/4 of an inch from my waist (plenty more to lose).
Finished 2 weeks of clen and got up to 120mcg without a problem (GL stuff wrecks me but the stuff I've got seems to be working ok). I've switched to ECA now which works great for me.

Carb Cycling:

Monday: Low
Tuesday: Low
Wednesday: Medium
Thursday: Low
Friday: Low
Saturday: Re-feed
Sunday: Low/Medium

My diet is going well and I'm loving the refeed days but low days look like this:

Low Carb Day

7am: Wake 5g L-Glutamine
40mins cardio
9am: 2 Scoops whey 2tbsp UDO's Oil have some carbs mate.. even on a low day... 75 oats, 8 egg white 1 whole or 2 scoops whey
11:30am: 3 extra lean mince meatballs
14:30pm: 1 chicken breast (approx 200g) salad 2tbsp Olive Oil
16:30pm: PWO shake or 2 tins of tuna 40g WMS or oats with some whey
19:30pm: 200g Lean Steak or Salmon 50-100g Broccoli
21:30pm: 6 eggs scrambled (4 whole + 2 whites)
cool
Medium Days look like this:

7am: Wake 5g L-Glutamine
40mins cardio
9am: 2 Scoops whey 2tbsp UDO's Oil carbs but 100g
11:30am: 3 extra lean mince meatballs + handful of mixed seeds (30g).
14:30pm: 1 chicken breast (approx 200g) 100g Basmati Rice60g rice
16:30pm: 1-2 tins of tuna.
19:30pm: 200g Lean Steak or Salmon 100g Broccoli + 100g Green Beans
21:30pm: 6 eggs scrambled (4 whole + 2 whites)

Twisted my ankle last weekend playing rugby and it's still giving me trouble, the swelling only really goes down after I go to bed, but if I walk around on it it will swell up again, generally it's pretty stiff but it's getting slowy better.

I'm training back tonight so I'll see how it goes under 180kgs of deadlift!

Weight training is a simple prescription compounds all the way..... (better for rugby)

When my ankle is better and the season is closer I will start some HIIT sprints, but for the moment I'm enjoying watching NRL whilst doing my low-intensity stuff!

i think your carbs are too low mate

defo need to up themi have added a few carbs in but thas teh bare minimum i will prob add a few more also

Jock · 16-04-2007, 01:29 PM

Ok cheers for replying mate, I'm such a dumbass I forgot to add I also have 50g of natty PB with my morning shake which is carbs but not many I know :(
If I add say 50g of oats with this, whould that make up for any deficiences?

DB · 16-04-2007, 01:32 PM

yeah mate any carbs is better than none!

to be honest i'd have it like this..

low day - 125g

medium - 225g

high day/refeed -400g minimum

depends on how much u weigh and how u respond to carbs but i do feel yours are too low

low and med days i try and have the majority of carbs in the mornign meals and then a few post workout

Jock · 16-04-2007, 01:36 PM

Thanks Baz you are a gent!

Delhi · 16-04-2007, 01:40 PM

DB is on the money here.

Though I have slightly less than 125g on low days (Mine is 100g).

Jock · 16-04-2007, 01:44 PM

Cheers, Del I had a nagging feeling I was a little low on carbs but you guys have nailed it.
Appreciate your advice.....

Predator · 16-04-2007, 01:44 PM

I've just started cutting too.
Diet is something I've never really paid much attention to. I've always been happy to eat what I want whilst training. I always got away with it.

I've not been training properly for far too long now and eating crap. I was hoping to put some bulk on before the Summer and then cut up in time. Sadly that's not going to happen now.

I think I will need to cut now for the Summer, so I can get my abs out and then bulk once the sun goes back in.

My biggest downer is that I will look tiny this Summer. :(
I guess it's my own fault though.

Because I do not know much about dieting I have been doing the below (as an example)

I hope you don't think I'm trying to jack the thread Jock. It's just that we are both cutting at the same time. At a glance it looks like our diets are both high in meat and not much else?

Today:

9am:
2 X Chicken breast
1 X scoop of protein 35g

11am:
2 X Scoop of protein 70g

1pm:
2 X Pork chop fillets

2pm:
1 X Scoop of protein 35g

4pm:
1 X Chicken fillet

6pm:
1 X Scoop of protein 35g

7pm:
Training

9pm:
1 X Fillet steak 2 X Chicken breast

On the odd days I also add chicken tonight with Basmati rice.

I have blow out days on Friday. Usually a take away and 12 Krispy Kremes. I love that sh1t!

Predator

chrisj22 · 16-04-2007, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predator

I've just started cutting too.
Diet is something I've never really paid much attention to. I've always been happy to eat what I want whilst training. I always got away with it.

I've not been training properly for far too long now and eating crap. I was hoping to put some bulk on before the Summer and then cut up in time. Sadly that's not going to happen now.

I think I will need to cut now for the Summer, so I can get my abs out and then bulk once the sun goes back in.

My biggest downer is that I will look tiny this Summer. :(
I guess it's my own fault though.

Because I do not know much about dieting I have been doing the below (as an example)

I hope you don't think I'm trying to jack the thread Jock. It's just that we are both cutting at the same time. At a glance it looks like our diets are both high in meat and not much else?

Today:

9am:
2 X Chicken breast
1 X scoop of protein 35g

11am:
2 X Scoop of protein 70g

1pm:
2 X Pork chop fillets

2pm:
1 X Scoop of protein 35g

4pm:
1 X Chicken fillet

6pm:
1 X Scoop of protein 35g

7pm:
Training

9pm:
1 X Fillet steak 2 X Chicken breast

On the odd days I also add chicken tonight with Basmati rice.

I have blow out days on Friday. Usually a take away and 12 Krispy Kremes. I love that sh1t!

Predator

I wouldn't be able to stand up if I ate that.....lol :faint2:

DB · 16-04-2007, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predator

I've just started cutting too.
Diet is something I've never really paid much attention to. I've always been happy to eat what I want whilst training. I always got away with it.

I've not been training properly for far too long now and eating crap. I was hoping to put some bulk on before the Summer and then cut up in time. Sadly that's not going to happen now.

I think I will need to cut now for the Summer, so I can get my abs out and then bulk once the sun goes back in.

My biggest downer is that I will look tiny this Summer. :(
I guess it's my own fault though.

Because I do not know much about dieting I have been doing the below (as an example)

I hope you don't think I'm trying to jack the thread Jock. It's just that we are both cutting at the same time. At a glance it looks like our diets are both high in meat and not much else?

Today:

9am:
2 X Chicken breast
1 X scoop of protein 35g

11am:
2 X Scoop of protein 70g

1pm:
2 X Pork chop fillets

2pm:
1 X Scoop of protein 35g

4pm:
1 X Chicken fillet

6pm:
1 X Scoop of protein 35g

7pm:
Training

9pm:
1 X Fillet steak 2 X Chicken breast

On the odd days I also add chicken tonight with Basmati rice.Woah watch those carbs u'll get fat

I have blow out days on Friday. Usually a take away and 12 Krispy Kremes. I love that sh1t!

Predator

thats simple to recify the diet looks ok except the lack of carbs...

so add in 75 g oats first thing then 60 g rice somewhere else.. thats a low day sorted...

then just increase them for a medium day

Jock · 16-04-2007, 02:04 PM

No mate all input and comparison is welcome, I try to make up for my lack of carbs with good fats thats why I try and get some nuts and fish in with some of my meals. I also supplement with fish oils of which I take about 8000-10000mg a day.
DB has nailed it though I guess when cutting some of us fall into the 'carbs are the enemy' trap which I am guilty.
I'm not overly concerned with appearence, I will never be 'huge' as I've learnt over the years that being overly muscular doesn't necessarily make you a better athlete but as long as I can be in good condition at approx 13st with 10-12% I will be happy.
From there I will be more concerned with power/skill etc.
The reason I am following a bodybuilders diet is that I have fallen into such a poor condition I need to diet to get anywhere near the condtion I need to be ready for next season.
You are pretty low on carbs there too mate, how many do you shoot for?

Predator · 16-04-2007, 02:04 PM

LOL! Thanks DB.

Predator

Predator · 16-04-2007, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jock

You are pretty low on carbs there too mate, how many do you shoot for?

That's the problem. Because I don't know much about the dieting side of training, I have not aimed at anything. Just did what I thought would be ok.

Just guess work on my side.

Predator

SportDr · 16-04-2007, 07:24 PM

Good luck with the cuts guys!

Jock as you need to increase your carbs AND have a lot of meat in your diet already(expensive/unhealthy) you could consider swapping some of your meat out for quinoa? It has all 22 amino's + low GI carbs + Efa's. Just exchange some of the meat for the quinoa and keep in the veg.

HTH

SD

Jock · 17-04-2007, 10:48 AM

Hmmm thanks Doc, I think I will replace the 4.30pm tin of tuna with some of this, I've had a quick look at wikipedia but I must admit my ignorance about this stuff, it would seem to kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

What does it taste like and more importantly do you have any recipes?

16-04-2007, 12:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jock LEAGUE LEGEND! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 3,030	Cutting up 3 weeks in I've been cutting for just over 2 weeks now. I haven't done any accurate measurements but I have lost approx 3/4 of an inch from my waist (plenty more to lose). Finished 2 weeks of clen and got up to 120mcg without a problem (GL stuff wrecks me but the stuff I've got seems to be working ok). I've switched to ECA now which works great for me. Carb Cycling: Monday: Low Tuesday: Low Wednesday: Medium Thursday: Low Friday: Low Saturday: Re-feed Sunday: Low/Medium My diet is going well and I'm loving the refeed days but low days look like this: Low Carb Day 7am: Wake 5g L-Glutamine 40mins cardio 9am: 2 Scoops whey 2tbsp UDO's Oil 11:30am: 3 extra lean mince meatballs 14:30pm: 1 chicken breast (approx 200g) salad 2tbsp Olive Oil 16:30pm: PWO shake or 2 tins of tuna 19:30pm: 200g Lean Steak or Salmon 50-100g Broccoli 21:30pm: 6 eggs scrambled (4 whole + 2 whites) Medium Days look like this: 7am: Wake 5g L-Glutamine 40mins cardio 9am: 2 Scoops whey 2tbsp UDO's Oil 11:30am: 3 extra lean mince meatballs + handful of mixed seeds (30g). 14:30pm: 1 chicken breast (approx 200g) 100g Basmati Rice 16:30pm: 1-2 tins of tuna. 19:30pm: 200g Lean Steak or Salmon 100g Broccoli + 100g Green Beans 21:30pm: 6 eggs scrambled (4 whole + 2 whites) Twisted my ankle last weekend playing rugby and it's still giving me trouble, the swelling only really goes down after I go to bed, but if I walk around on it it will swell up again, generally it's pretty stiff but it's getting slowy better. I'm training back tonight so I'll see how it goes under 180kgs of deadlift! Weight training is a simple prescription compounds all the way..... (better for rugby) When my ankle is better and the season is closer I will start some HIIT sprints, but for the moment I'm enjoying watching NRL whilst doing my low-intensity stuff! __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

16-04-2007, 01:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jock LEAGUE LEGEND! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 3,030	Re: Cutting up 3 weeks in Ok cheers for replying mate, I'm such a dumbass I forgot to add I also have 50g of natty PB with my morning shake which is carbs but not many I know :( If I add say 50g of oats with this, whould that make up for any deficiences? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

16-04-2007, 01:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
DB UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SW London Posts: 11,192	Re: Cutting up 3 weeks in yeah mate any carbs is better than none! to be honest i'd have it like this.. low day - 125g medium - 225g high day/refeed -400g minimum depends on how much u weigh and how u respond to carbs but i do feel yours are too low low and med days i try and have the majority of carbs in the mornign meals and then a few post workout __________________ DB To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. often imitated never duplicated To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. DB sleeps with a night light. Not because DB is afraid of the dark, but the dark is afraid of DB. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

16-04-2007, 01:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jock LEAGUE LEGEND! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 3,030	Re: Cutting up 3 weeks in Thanks Baz you are a gent! __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

16-04-2007, 01:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
Delhi Bigger, Better, Stronger Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: North Posts: 1,875	Re: Cutting up 3 weeks in DB is on the money here. Though I have slightly less than 125g on low days (Mine is 100g).

16-04-2007, 01:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
Jock LEAGUE LEGEND! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 3,030	Re: Cutting up 3 weeks in Cheers, Del I had a nagging feeling I was a little low on carbs but you guys have nailed it. Appreciate your advice..... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

16-04-2007, 01:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
Predator Getting HUGE! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Uk Posts: 1,313	Re: Cutting up 3 weeks in I've just started cutting too. Diet is something I've never really paid much attention to. I've always been happy to eat what I want whilst training. I always got away with it. I've not been training properly for far too long now and eating crap. I was hoping to put some bulk on before the Summer and then cut up in time. Sadly that's not going to happen now. I think I will need to cut now for the Summer, so I can get my abs out and then bulk once the sun goes back in. My biggest downer is that I will look tiny this Summer. :( I guess it's my own fault though. Because I do not know much about dieting I have been doing the below (as an example) I hope you don't think I'm trying to jack the thread Jock. It's just that we are both cutting at the same time. At a glance it looks like our diets are both high in meat and not much else? Today: 9am: 2 X Chicken breast 1 X scoop of protein 35g 11am: 2 X Scoop of protein 70g 1pm: 2 X Pork chop fillets 2pm: 1 X Scoop of protein 35g 4pm: 1 X Chicken fillet 6pm: 1 X Scoop of protein 35g 7pm: Training 9pm: 1 X Fillet steak 2 X Chicken breast On the odd days I also add chicken tonight with Basmati rice. I have blow out days on Friday. Usually a take away and 12 Krispy Kremes. I love that sh1t! Predator __________________ I ain't got time to bleed!! I'm what keeps the Devil in hiding!!

16-04-2007, 02:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
Jock LEAGUE LEGEND! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 3,030	Re: Cutting up 3 weeks in No mate all input and comparison is welcome, I try to make up for my lack of carbs with good fats thats why I try and get some nuts and fish in with some of my meals. I also supplement with fish oils of which I take about 8000-10000mg a day. DB has nailed it though I guess when cutting some of us fall into the 'carbs are the enemy' trap which I am guilty. I'm not overly concerned with appearence, I will never be 'huge' as I've learnt over the years that being overly muscular doesn't necessarily make you a better athlete but as long as I can be in good condition at approx 13st with 10-12% I will be happy. From there I will be more concerned with power/skill etc. The reason I am following a bodybuilders diet is that I have fallen into such a poor condition I need to diet to get anywhere near the condtion I need to be ready for next season. You are pretty low on carbs there too mate, how many do you shoot for? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

16-04-2007, 02:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
Predator Getting HUGE! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Uk Posts: 1,313	Re: Cutting up 3 weeks in LOL! Thanks DB. Predator __________________ I ain't got time to bleed!! I'm what keeps the Devil in hiding!!

16-04-2007, 07:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
SportDr Getting HUGE! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: E-Sussex UK Posts: 2,623	Re: Cutting up 3 weeks in Good luck with the cuts guys! Jock as you need to increase your carbs AND have a lot of meat in your diet already(expensive/unhealthy) you could consider swapping some of your meat out for quinoa? It has all 22 amino's + low GI carbs + Efa's. Just exchange some of the meat for the quinoa and keep in the veg. HTH SD __________________ I don't like Sports and I am not a Doctor! You expressed and challenged yourself, startled the dozing muscles and welcomed the sweet pain of gain. Boredom begets mediocrity. Enemies both, they deserve swift eradication. Let's hit the weights and build some muscle. Race ya to the bench press. Dave Draper A goal casually set and lightly taken will be freely abandoned at the first obstacle. Zig Ziglar Any advice given is for information only, always seek the advice of your medical practitioner. Use this My Protein refferer code and get a 5% DISCOUNT on your first order! MP2819

17-04-2007, 10:48 AM	#15 (permalink)
Jock LEAGUE LEGEND! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 3,030	Re: Cutting up 3 weeks in Hmmm thanks Doc, I think I will replace the 4.30pm tin of tuna with some of this, I've had a quick look at wikipedia but I must admit my ignorance about this stuff, it would seem to kill 2 birds with 1 stone. What does it taste like and more importantly do you have any recipes? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.