Jock's Cutting Journal.....Coming Soon! - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

Jock · 02-04-2004, 05:30 PM

Hey fellas

Well, since I got ill with glandular fever over christmas (when I lost 12lbs) I have been eating and lifting hard to get back to up my weight of 180lbs.

It's taken over 2 months but I've finally got there, I stopped playing rugby when I got ill and I have stopped all cardio in an attempt to help me gain my weight back. My diet has been very good, I have been eating 180-200g of protein a day and my lifts are starting to go steadily up, I feel strong but not in very good shape. I want to put on another 5lbs before I cut. Here are my stats:

Stats:
Age: 22
Height: 5'8"
Weight 180lbs
BF: 18%
Waist: 35"
Chest:42"
Legs: 25"
Arms: 15"

I'm currently putting an 8-week cutting cycle together to start in early June:

Cutting Cycle:
Weeks 1-8: 100mg Test Prop EOD
Weeks 1-8: 75mg Tren EOD
Weeks 2-8: T3 taper

I will cycle Clen/ECA every 2 weeks in the usual fashion, and I will have Nolvadex, Proviron and Clomid on hand.

Diet:
This will be very clean, made up of vegetables, fruit, lean meats etc

2,200kcals a day

330g Protein per day
110g Carbs per day
49g Fat per day

Cardio
This will be a mix of HIIT (Bill Philip's Body-For-Life - has worked for me before) and 30mins of steady-state jogging or cycling (60-70% of heart rate max), in my experience of cutting it is best not to let the body become accustomed to one form of exercise over a long peroid. The raging debate between steady-state and HIIT doesn't seem to stop, so I figure that I will try and get the benefits of both. I will perform cardio 4x a week (2x Steady-state, 2x HIIT)

Goals:
1) 13% Bodyfat (I will need to lose about 10-12lbs of fat)
2) Absolute minimum in muscle loss (this is very important to me)

I will consume 15g of whey and 5 of glutamine in water before I do cardio.

Any observations are welcome!

Watch this space, Jock

**Great White** · 02-04-2004, 06:09 PM

Good luck Bro

Keep us updated with your progress!

Paul

Nathan · 03-04-2004, 12:16 PM

jock, Good luck mate with it. I am in the same boat

keep it up

Nate ;)

Panthro · 03-04-2004, 02:19 PM

nice one mate. look forward to seeing how you go! Get some good before, during and after pix.

Id also chuck in 4 weeks of winni. 6-10. This will help with tren recovery.. .

Mr T · 03-04-2004, 04:51 PM

when will u be doing cardio ??

Jock · 03-04-2004, 05:02 PM

Thanks for the input guys, Panthro, I'm not sure about winny, I can't really afford it although I may chuck it in anyway.

I always do my cardio in the morning on an empty stomach (apart from 15g whey & 5g glutamine)

The debate surrounding morning cardio is also hotly contested, but I have found that it has worked for me in the past. I can keep muscle loss to a minimum as long as my diet is good.

Cheers, Jock

Panthro · 03-04-2004, 05:08 PM

it is worth the extra £1000000 mate. anyway, we get our loans on the 19th! ;)

Winni can really help with tren recovery and also it'll complement the cutting cycle nicely... ;)

Panthro · 03-04-2004, 05:09 PM

oh, if you are really skint, and as long as you use injectable, you could get away with 50mg EOD..

Jock · 03-04-2004, 05:11 PM

Quote:

it is worth the extra £1000000 mate. anyway, we get our loans on the 19th!

Very true mate!!! forgot about that!!!! What do you think 50mg ED (Zambon injectable?)

Just out of interest do you think my goals are reasonable?

Cheers, Jock

Panthro · 03-04-2004, 05:40 PM

yep, zambons are the daddy. Dont use generic winstrol!!! Ask paul about that one... ;)

I think you will see a big difference.... loosing 5% b/f in 8 weeks might be a bit of a tall order.. i think 1lb per week is realistic if you are not losing muscle.. But depends on loads of factors! I bet you'll be very happy at the end of it... the tren is the bollox..

Jock · 03-04-2004, 05:43 PM

Cheers mate, you're a gem!

miami797 · 06-04-2004, 01:25 AM

at your size why would you want to cut???? why not bulk for atleast 2 or 3 cycles then go for the cut??????

Jock · 06-04-2004, 02:02 PM

Quote:

at your size why would you want to cut???? why not bulk for atleast 2 or 3 cycles then go for the cut??????

I'm not bothered about size...........I am not a bodybuilder, I am a strength athlete. There's a lot of difference.

Panthro · 06-04-2004, 02:37 PM

out of interest mate, why are you cutting then? I train at a powerlifting/strongman/"strength athlete" gym and they are all BIG boys but anent low b/f as that effects strength.. unless you can afford lots of hgh.. ..

If strength is your goal mate, i think you need to revise your cycle!! ;)

powerU · 06-04-2004, 02:56 PM

I'm very similar stats to Jock, apart from age!
Age: 34
Height: 5'9"
Weight 196lbs
BF: 18%
Waist: 36"
Chest:44"
Legs: 26"
Arms: 15.5"
I'm cutting at the moment too - just coz i'm vain and it's nearly summer!!!!

02-04-2004, 05:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jock LEAGUE LEGEND! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 3,082	Jock's Cutting Journal.....Coming Soon! Hey fellas Well, since I got ill with glandular fever over christmas (when I lost 12lbs) I have been eating and lifting hard to get back to up my weight of 180lbs. It's taken over 2 months but I've finally got there, I stopped playing rugby when I got ill and I have stopped all cardio in an attempt to help me gain my weight back. My diet has been very good, I have been eating 180-200g of protein a day and my lifts are starting to go steadily up, I feel strong but not in very good shape. I want to put on another 5lbs before I cut. Here are my stats: Stats: Age: 22 Height: 5'8" Weight 180lbs BF: 18% Waist: 35" Chest:42" Legs: 25" Arms: 15" I'm currently putting an 8-week cutting cycle together to start in early June: Cutting Cycle: Weeks 1-8: 100mg Test Prop EOD Weeks 1-8: 75mg Tren EOD Weeks 2-8: T3 taper I will cycle Clen/ECA every 2 weeks in the usual fashion, and I will have Nolvadex, Proviron and Clomid on hand. Diet: This will be very clean, made up of vegetables, fruit, lean meats etc 2,200kcals a day 330g Protein per day 110g Carbs per day 49g Fat per day Cardio This will be a mix of HIIT (Bill Philip's Body-For-Life - has worked for me before) and 30mins of steady-state jogging or cycling (60-70% of heart rate max), in my experience of cutting it is best not to let the body become accustomed to one form of exercise over a long peroid. The raging debate between steady-state and HIIT doesn't seem to stop, so I figure that I will try and get the benefits of both. I will perform cardio 4x a week (2x Steady-state, 2x HIIT) Goals: 1) 13% Bodyfat (I will need to lose about 10-12lbs of fat) 2) Absolute minimum in muscle loss (this is very important to me) I will consume 15g of whey and 5 of glutamine in water before I do cardio. Any observations are welcome! Watch this space, Jock

03-04-2004, 05:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
Panthro Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,509	it is worth the extra £1000000 mate. anyway, we get our loans on the 19th! ;) Winni can really help with tren recovery and also it'll complement the cutting cycle nicely... ;) Last edited by Panthro; 03-04-2004 at 05:49 PM.

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02-04-2004, 06:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
Great White Sexy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 9,262	Good luck Bro Keep us updated with your progress! Paul

03-04-2004, 12:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
Nathan Newbie Trainer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: bromley , kent Posts: 20	jock, Good luck mate with it. I am in the same boat keep it up Nate ;)

03-04-2004, 02:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
Panthro Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,509	nice one mate. look forward to seeing how you go! Get some good before, during and after pix. Id also chuck in 4 weeks of winni. 6-10. This will help with tren recovery.. .

03-04-2004, 04:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mr T Looking Freaky Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: N.Ireland Posts: 709	when will u be doing cardio ??

03-04-2004, 05:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jock LEAGUE LEGEND! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 3,082	Thanks for the input guys, Panthro, I'm not sure about winny, I can't really afford it although I may chuck it in anyway. I always do my cardio in the morning on an empty stomach (apart from 15g whey & 5g glutamine) The debate surrounding morning cardio is also hotly contested, but I have found that it has worked for me in the past. I can keep muscle loss to a minimum as long as my diet is good. Cheers, Jock

03-04-2004, 05:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
Panthro Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,509	oh, if you are really skint, and as long as you use injectable, you could get away with 50mg EOD..

03-04-2004, 05:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
Panthro Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,509	yep, zambons are the daddy. Dont use generic winstrol!!! Ask paul about that one... ;) I think you will see a big difference.... loosing 5% b/f in 8 weeks might be a bit of a tall order.. i think 1lb per week is realistic if you are not losing muscle.. But depends on loads of factors! I bet you'll be very happy at the end of it... the tren is the bollox..

03-04-2004, 05:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
Jock LEAGUE LEGEND! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 3,082	Cheers mate, you're a gem!

06-04-2004, 01:25 AM	#12 (permalink)
miami797 Feeling Slutty Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,438	at your size why would you want to cut???? why not bulk for atleast 2 or 3 cycles then go for the cut??????

06-04-2004, 02:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
Panthro Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,509	out of interest mate, why are you cutting then? I train at a powerlifting/strongman/"strength athlete" gym and they are all BIG boys but anent low b/f as that effects strength.. unless you can afford lots of hgh.. .. If strength is your goal mate, i think you need to revise your cycle!! ;)

06-04-2004, 02:56 PM	#15 (permalink)
powerU Getting HUGE! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1,141	I'm very similar stats to Jock, apart from age! Age: 34 Height: 5'9" Weight 196lbs BF: 18% Waist: 36" Chest:44" Legs: 26" Arms: 15.5" I'm cutting at the moment too - just coz i'm vain and it's nearly summer!!!!