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Old 21-02-2004, 10:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Getting ripped, I mean ripped!

Right, I'm gonna have to prepare myself for getting ripped, I'm aiming to do this in 2 months, now, I want around 4% bodyfat, perhaps lower, how do those pros do this? so every ripple of muscle shows up. Basically my routine is gonna consist of:

Fat burner tabs (Hot rox or tight by san nutri)
Cardio in morning before eating. (1 hour)
Carb drop to 50gram a day
Calorie drop to 1500kcals a day
Protien up to 300-400grams a day
vitamins suppliments
Cardio after work (1 hour)
Maybe, just maybe, do tren and EQ cycle (4-6 weeks)

If anyone else has extra ideas on this, or if I have listed something wrong, it would be much appreciated, I'm not doing this now, just making sure I have everything spot on before I start, I'm not bothered about slight muscle loss as I will be over what I want by the time I finish this cycle anyways, I hope
 
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Old 21-02-2004, 10:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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good luck mate will be taking notes fromw hatu have sed above for my cutting that will be in about 2 months
how much you at now bf %?
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Old 21-02-2004, 10:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think around 13-14%, all my upper body is low bodyfat, is just the fat on my belly and back that is putting it up,
 
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Hey bro some HGH will trim the tummy down loads and the gains that you get from that is perminant.
The wallet will take a serious hit but it is good stuff.
I feel safe taking it and like the subtle gains from it.
You can get it about 1/4 the cost as me maybe even cheaper. The guys on this board take like 10-12 IU's
Man that is crazy but it does strip the fat off really nice and you dont even have to diet.
I would suggest though that when you get off the HGH to not eat as much food as before or you will get the stomach back like a boomerang:(
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Re: Getting ripped, I mean ripped!

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Cardio in morning before eating. (1 hour)
Carb drop to 50gram a day
Calorie drop to 1500kcals a day
Protien up to 300-400grams a day
Hey Insane, 300-400 grams of protein comes out to 1200-1600 calories in protein alone, the 50 grams of carbs come out to another 200 calories and that dosn't even count the fat grams, which are 9 calories per gram of fat. So that comes out to 1400-1800. I would do 3000 calories a day.
I would take in more calories than that. I would also back off on the carbs but start off with 20 percent drop then go to 30 then 40 then 50. That will keep it coming off. Also carbs arent the issue if you know what carbs to consume and not to consume. I will get back with a better aproach. ;)
Ok here is a link on the glycimic load of carbs. It is missing peaches which are real low. Try to keep it under 50. I will edit this post and when I am done it will be complete. ;)
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Glycemic Index (GI)
A chart that ranks foods by comparing the effect they have on your blood sugar to pure glucose (sugar, enters your blood stream immediately). The higher a food ranks on the glycemic index, the more glucose that food will send to your bloodstream (and the more insulin your pancreas must produce to transport that glucose to cells). With more insulin produced, your body is more likely to store fat. Therefore, foods high on the glycemic index are considered more fattening than foods lower on the index.

RATING . . . . . FOOD ITEM

110 . . . . . . . . . MALTOSE
100 . . . . . . . . . GLUCOSE
98 . . . . . . . . . . Potato, Russet, Baked
97 . . . . . . . . . . Parsnips
92 . . . . . . . . . . Carrots
87 . . . . . . . . . . Honey
80 . . . . . . . . . . Potato, Instant Mashed
80 . . . . . . . . . . Cornflakes
72 . . . . . . . . . . Whole Wheat Bread
72 . . . . . . . . . . White Rice
70 . . . . . . . . . . Potato, White
69 . . . . . . . . . . White Bread
68 . . . . . . . . . . Mars Bar
67 . . . . . . . . . . Shredded Wheat
66 . . . . . . . . . . Swiss Museli
66 . . . . . . . . . . Brown Rice
64 . . . . . . . . . . Raisins
64 . . . . . . . . . . Beets
62 . . . . . . . . . . Bananas
59 . . . . . . . . . . SUCROSE
59 . . . . . . . . . . Sweet Corn
59 . . . . . . . . . . Pastry
51 . . . . . . . . . . Bran
51 . . . . . . . . . . Green Peas
51 . . . . . . . . . . Potato Chips
51 . . . . . . . . . . Sweet Potato
50 . . . . . . . . . . White Spaghetti
49 . . . . . . . . . . Oatmeal
45 . . . . . . . . . . Grapes
42 . . . . . . . . . . Whole Grain Rye Bread
42 . . . . . . . . . . Whole Wheat Spaghetti
40 . . . . . . . . . . Orange
39 . . . . . . . . . . Apples
38 . . . . . . . . . . Tomatos
36 . . . . . . . . . . Ice Cream
36 . . . . . . . . . . Chick-Peas
36 . . . . . . . . . . Lima Beans
36 . . . . . . . . . . Yogurt
34 . . . . . . . . . . Milk, Whole
32 . . . . . . . . . . Milk, Skim
29 . . . . . . . . . . Kidney Beans
29 . . . . . . . . . . Lentils
34 . . . . . . . . . . Pears
28 . . . . . . . . . . Sausages
26 . . . . . . . . . . Peaches
26 . . . . . . . . . . Grapefruit
25 . . . . . . . . . . Plums
23 . . . . . . . . . . Cherries
20 . . . . . . . . . . FRUCTOSE
15 . . . . . . . . . . Soybeans
13 . . . . . . . . . . Peanuts
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If you really want to make some radical gains keep it as close to 1 as possible. Note, ice cream is not as bad as you think. Now if you add fat to carbs then it makes it even harder for the carbs to spike. Protein would rate second to fat. So what am I saying. Eat your protein, eat your omega 3 fats, and keep the glycemic spiking carbs down to a minimum and you will have the ripped body that you have always wanted. If you pick a low glycemic carb and it has high fiber in it then it almost become a negative. For instance, strawberrys, celary, and cucumbers are best. You can eat them to your hearts content and still dont count as calories. Yes you will loose.

THE GLYCEMIC INDEX For Selected Foods
RAPID INDUCERS OF INSULIN:
Glycemic index greater than 100%
Glycemic index = 100%: White bread
Glycemic index between 70-99%
MODERATE INDUCERS OF INSULIN
Glycemic index between 40-69%
REDUCED INDUCERS OF INSULIN
Glycemic index between 10-39%
Food-based list:
BAKERY PRODUCTS
Cake, angel food........................95
Cake, banana, made with sugar...........67
Cake, banana, made without sugar........79
Cake, flan..............................93
Cake, pound.............................77
Cake, sponge............................66
Croissant...............................96
Crumpet.................................98
Donut...................................108
Muffins.................................88
Pastry..................................84
Pizza, cheese...........................86
Waffles.................................109
BEVERAGES
Cordial, orange.........................94
Lucozade................................136
Soft drink, Fanta.......................97
BREADS
Bagel, white............................103
Barley kernel bread.....................66
Barley flour bread......................95
Bread stuffing..........................106
Hamburger bun...........................87
Kaiser rolls............................104
Melba toast.............................100
Oat kernel bread........................93
Oat bran bread..........................68
Rye Kernel bread........................66
Pumpernickel............................71
Rye flour bread.........................92
Linseed rye bread.......................78
Wheat bread, white......................101
French baguette.........................136
Wheat bread, high fiber.................97
Wheat bread, Wonderwhite................112
Wheat bread, gluten free................129
Wheat bread, wholemeal flour............99
Whole-wheat snack bread.................105
Pita bread, white.......................82
Semolina bread..........................92
Bulger bread............................75
Mixed grain bread.......................69
Fruit loaf..............................67
BREAKFAST CEREALS
All-bran................................60
Bran Buds...............................75
Bran Chex...............................83
Breakfast bar...........................109
Cheerios................................106
Cocopops................................110
Corn Bran...............................107
Corn Chex...............................118
Cornflakes..............................119
Cream of Wheat..........................100
Crispix.................................124
Golden Grahams..........................102
Grapenuts...............................96
Post Flakes.............................114
Life....................................94
Muesli..................................80
Nutri-grain.............................94
Oat Bran................................78
Porridge................................87
Pro Stars...............................102
Puffed Wheat............................105
Red River Cereal........................70
Rice Bran...............................27
Rice Bubbles............................128
Rice Chex...............................127
Rice Krispies...........................117
Shredded Wheat..........................99
Special K...............................77
Sultana Bran............................74
Sustain.................................97
Team....................................117
Total...................................109
Wheat Biscuits..........................100
CEREAL GRAINS
Barley..................................49
Buckwheat...............................78
Bulgur..................................68
Couscous................................93
Maize...................................98
Sweet corn..............................78
Taco shells.............................97
Millet..................................101
Rice, white.............................83
Rice, white, low amylose................126
Rice, white, high amylose...............83
Rice, brown.............................79
Rice, Sunbrown Quick....................114
Rice, Mahatma Premium...................94
Rice, Pedle.............................109
Rice, Calrose...........................124
Rice, instant, boiled 6 min.............128
Rice, instant, boiled 1 min.............65
Rice, parboiled.........................68
Rice, parboiled, high amylose...........69
Rice, parboiled, low amylose Pelde......124
Rice, specialty.........................78
Rice, wild, Saskatchewan................81
Rye.....................................48
Tapioca, boiled with milk...............115
Wheat kernels...........................59
Wheat, quick cooking....................77
COOKIES
Digestives..............................84
Graham Wafers...........................106
Arrowroot...............................95
Morning Coffee cookies..................113
Oatmeal.................................79
Rich Tea cookies........................79
Shredded Wheatmeal......................89
Shortbread..............................91
Vanilla Wafers..........................110
CRACKERS
Breton Wheat Crackers...................96
Jatz....................................79
Puffed Crispbread.......................116
Rice Cakes..............................110
High Fibre Rye Crispread................93
Sao.....................................100
Stoned Wheat Thins......................96
Water Crackers..........................102
DAIRY FOODS
Ice cream...............................87
Ice cream, low fat......................71
Milk, full fat..........................39
Milk, skim..............................46
Milk, chocolate, sugar sweetened........49
Milk, chocolate, artifically sweet......34
Milk + 30 g bran........................38
Milk + custard + starch + sugar.........61
Yogurt, low fat, fruit sugar sweet......47
Yogurt, low fat, artifically sweet......20
Yogurt, unspecified.....................51
FRUIT AND FRUIT PRODUCTS
Apple...................................54
Apple juice.............................58
Apricots................................44
Banana..................................77
Cherries................................32
Fruit cocktail..........................79
Grapefruit..............................36
Grapefruit juice........................69
Grapes..................................66
Kiwifruit...............................75
Mango...................................80
Orange..................................63
Orange juice............................74
Pawpaw..................................83
Peach, fresh............................60
Peach, canned...........................67
Pear, fresh.............................53
Pear, canned............................63
Pineapple...............................94
Pineapple juice.........................66
Plum....................................55
Raisins.................................91
Rockmelon...............................93
Sultanas................................80
Watermelon..............................103
LEGUMES
Baked beans, canned.....................69
Beans, dried, not specified.............40
Beans, dried, P. vulgaris...............100
Black-eyed beans........................59
Broad beans (fava beans)................113
Butter beans............................44
Butter beans + 5 g. sucrose.............43
Butter beans + 10 g. sucrose............44
Butter beans + 15 g. sucrose............77
Chick peas (garbanzo beans).............47
Chick peas, canned......................60
Chick peas, curry, canned...............58
Haricot/navy beans......................54
Kidney beans............................42
Kidney beans, autoclaved................49
Kidney beans, canned....................74
Lentils, not specified..................41
Lentils, green..........................42
Lentils, green, canned..................74
Lentils, red............................36
Lima beans, baby, frozen................46
Pinto beans.............................55
Pinto beans, canned.....................64
Romano beans............................65
Soya beans..............................25
Soya beans, canned......................20
Split peas, yellow, boiled..............45
PASTA
Capellini...............................64
Fettuccine..............................46
Gnocchi.................................95
Instant noodles.........................67
Linguine................................65
Macaroni................................64
Macaroni and Cheese.....................92
Ravioli, durum, meat filled.............56
Spaghetti, protein enriched.............38
Spaghetti, white........................59
Spaghetti, boiled 5 min.................52
Spaghetti, durum........................78
Spaghetti, wholemeal....................53
Spirali, durum..........................61
Star pastina............................54
Tortellini, cheese......................71
Vermicelli..............................50
Rice pasta, brown.......................131
ROOT VEGETABLES
Beets...................................91
Carrots.................................101
Parsnips................................139
Potato, instant.........................118
Potato, baked...........................121
Potato, new.............................81
Potato, Pontiac, boiled.................80
Potato, Prince Edward Island............87
Potato, white, not specified............80
Potato mashed...........................100
Potato, steamed.........................93
Potato, microwaved......................117
Potato, white, Ontario..................85
French fries............................107
Sweet potato............................77
Swede (rutabaga)........................103
Yam.....................................73
SNACK FOOD AND CONFECTIONARY
Jelly beans.............................114
Life Savers.............................100
Chocolate...............................70
Mars Bar................................97
Muesli Bars.............................87
Popcorn.................................79
Corn chips..............................105
Potato crisps...........................77
Peanuts.................................21
Pretzels................................116
SOUPS
Black bean soup.........................92
Green pea soup, canned..................94
Lentil soup, canned.....................63
Split pea soup..........................86
Tomato Soup.............................54
SUGARS
Honey...................................104
Fructose................................32
Glucose.................................137
Glucose tablets.........................146
Maltose.................................150
Sucrose.................................92
Lactose.................................65
VEGETABLES
Peas, dried.............................32
Marrowfat, dried........................56
Peas, green.............................68
Pumpkin.................................107
Sweet corn..............................78
INDIGENOUS FOODS
PIMA INDIAN:
Acorns stewed with venison..............23
Cactus jam..............................130
Corn hominy.............................57
Fruit leather...........................100
Lima beans broth........................51
Mesquite cakes..........................36
Tortilla................................54
White teparies broth....................44
Yellow teparies broth...................41
SOUTH AFRICAN:
Brown beans.............................34
Gram dal (chana dal)....................7
Maize meal porridge, unrefined..........101
Maize meal porridge, refined............106
MÕfino wild greens......................97
MEXICAN:
Black beans.............................43
Brown beans.............................54
Nopal prickly pear cactus...............10
ASIAN INDIAN:
Baisen chapati..........................39
Bajra...................................82
Banana, unripe, steamed 1 hr............100
Barley chapati..........................61
Bengal gram dal (chana dal).............16
Black gram..............................61
Green gram..............................54
Horse gram..............................73
Jowar...................................110
Maize chapati...........................89
Ragi (or Raggi).........................123
Rajmah..................................27
Semolina................................94
Black gram dal w/triticum aestivum......66
Green gram dal w/triticum aestivum......89
Bengal gram dal w/triticum aestivum.....77
Tapioca, steamed 1 hr...................100
Varagu..................................97
Green gram dal + paspalum scorbic.......111
Whole greengram.........................81
AUSTRALIAN ABORIGINAL:
Mulga seed (Acacia aneura)..............11
Bread (Acacia coriacea).................66
Bunya nut pine..........................67
Bush honey, sugar bag...................61
Blackbean seed..........................11
Castanospermum australe.................106
Cheeky yam..............................49
Macrozamia communis.....................57
PACIFIC ISLAND FOODS:
Breadfruit..............................97
Taro....................................77
Sweet potato (Ipamoea batatas)..........63
CHINESE FOODS:
Rice vermicelli.........................83
Lungkow bean thread.....................37
MISCELLANEOUS
Fish fingers............................54
Sausages................................40
Ultracal................................55
Sustagen Hospital Formula...............61
Tofu frozen desert, non-dairy...........164
Vitari..................................40

GI-based list:
Gram dal (chana dal)....................7
Nopal prickly pear cactus...............10
Mulga seed (Acacia aneura)..............11
Blackbean seed..........................11
Bengal gram dal (chana dal).............16
Yogurt, low fat, artifically sweet......20
Soya beans, canned......................20
Peanuts.................................21
Acorns stewed with venison..............23
Soya beans..............................25
Rice Bran...............................27
Rajmah..................................27
Cherries................................32
Fructose................................32
Peas, dried.............................32
Milk, chocolate, artifically sweet......34
Brown beans.............................34
Grapefruit..............................36
Lentils, red............................36
Mesquite cakes..........................36
Lungkow bean thread.....................37
Spaghetti, protein enriched.............38
Milk + 30 g bran........................38
Milk, full fat..........................39
Baisen chapati..........................39
Beans, dried, not specified.............40
Sausages................................40
Vitari..................................40
Lentils, not specified..................41
Yellow teparies broth...................41
Kidney beans............................42
Lentils, green..........................42
Black beans.............................43
Butter beans + 5 g. sucrose.............43
Butter beans + 10 g. sucrose............44
Apricots................................44
Butter beans............................44
White teparies broth....................44
Split peas, yellow, boiled..............45
Milk, skim..............................46
Lima beans, baby, frozen................46
Fettuccine..............................46
Yogurt, low fat, fruit sugar sweet......47
Chick peas (garbanzo beans).............47
Rye.....................................48
Barley..................................49
Milk, chocolate, sugar sweetened........49
Kidney beans, autoclaved................49
Cheeky yam..............................49
Vermicelli..............................50
Yogurt, unspecified.....................51
Lima beans broth........................51
Pear, fresh.............................53
Spaghetti, wholemeal....................53
Apple...................................54
Haricot/navy beans......................54
Star pastina............................54
Tomato Soup.............................54
Tortilla................................54
Brown beans.............................54
Green gram..............................54
Fish fingers............................54
Plum....................................55
Pinto beans.............................55
Ultracal................................55
Ravioli, durum, meat filled.............56
Marrowfat, dried........................56
Spaghetti, boiled 5 min.................52
Corn hominy.............................57
Macrozamia communis.....................57
Apple juice.............................58
Chick peas, curry, canned...............58
Wheat kernels...........................59
Black-eyed beans........................59
Spaghetti, white........................59
All-bran................................60
Peach, fresh............................60
Chick peas, canned......................60
Milk + custard + starch + sugar.........61
Spirali, durum..........................61
Barley chapati..........................61
Black gram..............................61
Bush honey, sugar bag...................61
Sustagen Hospital Formula...............61
Orange..................................63
Pear, canned............................63
Lentil soup, canned.....................63
Sweet potato (Ipamoea batatas)..........63
Pinto beans, canned.....................64
Capellini...............................64
Macaroni................................64
Romano beans............................65
Linguine................................65
Rice, instant, boiled 1 min.............65
Lactose.................................65
Cake, sponge............................66
Barley kernel bread.....................66
Rye Kernel bread........................66
Grapes..................................66
Pineapple juice.........................66
Black gram dal w/triticum aestivum......66
Bread (Acacia coriacea).................66
Cake, banana, made with sugar...........67
Fruit loaf..............................67
Peach, canned...........................67
Instant noodles.........................67
Bunya nut pine..........................67
Oat bran bread..........................68
Bulgur..................................68
Rice, parboiled.........................68
Peas, green.............................68
Mixed grain bread.......................69
Rice, parboiled, high amylose...........69
Grapefruit juice........................69
Baked beans, canned.....................69
Red River Cereal........................70
Chocolate...............................70
Pumpernickel............................71
Ice cream, low fat......................71
Tortellini, cheese......................71
Yam.....................................73
Horse gram..............................73
Sultana Bran............................74
Orange juice............................74
Kidney beans, canned....................74
Lentils, green, canned..................74
Bulger bread............................75
Bran Buds...............................75
Kiwifruit...............................75
Cake, pound.............................77
Special K...............................77
Wheat, quick cooking....................77
Banana..................................77
Sweet potato............................77
Potato crisps...........................77
Bengal gram dal w/triticum aestivum.....77
Taro....................................77
Butter beans + 15 g. sucrose............77
Linseed rye bread.......................78
Oat Bran................................78
Buckwheat...............................78
Sweet corn..............................78
Rice, specialty.........................78
Spaghetti, durum........................78
Sweet corn..............................78
Cake, banana, made without sugar........79
Rice, brown.............................79
Oatmeal.................................79
Rich Tea cookies........................79
Jatz....................................79
Fruit cocktail..........................79
Popcorn.................................79
Muesli..................................80
Mango...................................80
Sultanas................................80
Potato, Pontiac, boiled.................80
Potato, white, not specified............80
Rice, wild, Saskatchewan................81
Potato, new.............................81
Whole greengram.........................81
Pita bread, white.......................82
Bajra...................................82
Bran Chex...............................83
Rice, white.............................83
Rice, white, high amylose...............83
Pawpaw..................................83
Rice vermicelli.........................83
Pastry..................................84
Digestives..............................84
Potato, white, Ontario..................85
Pizza, cheese...........................86
Split pea soup..........................86
Hamburger bun...........................87
Porridge................................87
Ice cream...............................87
Potato, Prince Edward Island............87
Muesli Bars.............................87
Muffins.................................88
Shredded Wheatmeal......................89
Maize chapati...........................89
Green gram dal w/triticum aestivum......89
Shortbread..............................91
Raisins.................................91
Beets...................................91
Rye flour bread.........................92
Semolina bread..........................92
Macaroni and Cheese.....................92
Black bean soup.........................92
Sucrose.................................92
Cake, flan..............................93
Oat kernel bread........................93
Couscous................................93
High Fibre Rye Crispread................93
Rockmelon...............................93
Potato, steamed.........................93
Cordial, orange.........................94
Life....................................94
Nutri-grain.............................94
Rice, Mahatma Premium...................94
Pineapple...............................94
Green pea soup, canned..................94
Semolina................................94
Cake, angel food........................95
Barley flour bread......................95
Arrowroot...............................95
Gnocchi.................................95
Croissant...............................96
Grapenuts...............................96
Breton Wheat Crackers...................96
Stoned Wheat Thins......................96
Soft drink, Fanta.......................97
Sustain.................................97
Taco shells.............................97
Mars Bar................................97
MÕfino wild greens......................97
Varagu..................................97
Breadfruit..............................97
Crumpet.................................98
Maize...................................98
Wheat bread, high fiber.................97
Wheat bread, wholemeal flour............99
Shredded Wheat..........................99
Melba toast.............................100
Cream of Wheat..........................100
Wheat Biscuits..........................100
Sao.....................................100
Beans, dried, P. vulgaris...............100
Potato mashed...........................100
Life Savers.............................100
Fruit leather...........................100
Banana, unripe, steamed 1 hr............100
Tapioca, steamed 1 hr...................100
Millet..................................101
Carrots.................................101
Maize meal porridge, unrefined..........101
Wheat bread, white......................101
Golden Grahams..........................102
Pro Stars...............................102
Water Crackers..........................102
Bagel, white............................103
Watermelon..............................103
Swede (rutabaga)........................103
Kaiser rolls............................104
Honey...................................104
Whole-wheat snack bread.................105
Puffed Wheat............................105
Corn chips..............................105
Bread stuffing..........................106
Cheerios................................106
Graham Wafers...........................106
Maize meal porridge, refined............106
Castanospermum australe.................106
Corn Bran...............................107
French fries............................107
Pumpkin.................................107
Donut...................................108
Waffles.................................109
Breakfast bar...........................109
Total...................................109
Rice, Pedle.............................109
Cocopops................................110
Vanilla Wafers..........................110
Rice Cakes..............................110
Jowar...................................110
Green gram dal + paspalum scorbic.......111
Wheat bread, Wonderwhite................112
Morning Coffee cookies..................113
Broad beans (fava beans)................113
Post Flakes.............................114
Rice, Sunbrown Quick....................114
Jelly beans.............................114
Tapioca, boiled with milk...............115
Puffed Crispbread.......................116
Pretzels................................116
Rice Krispies...........................117
Team....................................117
Potato, microwaved......................117
Corn Chex...............................118
Potato, instant.........................118
Cornflakes..............................119
Potato, baked...........................121
Ragi (or Raggi).........................123
Crispix.................................124
Rice, Calrose...........................124
Rice, parboiled, low amylose Pelde......124
Rice, white, low amylose................126
Rice Chex...............................127
Rice Bubbles............................128
Rice, instant, boiled 6 min.............128
Wheat bread, gluten free................129
Cactus jam..............................130
Rice pasta, brown.......................131
Lucozade................................136
French baguette.........................136
Glucose.................................137
Parsnips................................139
Glucose tablets.........................146
Maltose.................................150
Tofu frozen desert, non-dairy...........164

Based on Glucose=100
RATING . . . . . FOOD ITEM
110 . . . . . MALTOSE
100 . . . . . GLUCOSE
98 . . . . . . Potato, Russet, Baked
97 . . . . . . Parsnips
92 . . . . . . Carrots
87 . . . . . . Honey
80 . . . . . . Potato, Instant Mashed
80 . . . . . . Cornflakes
72 . . . . . . Whole Wheat Bread
72 . . . . . . White Rice
70 . . . . . . Potato, White
69 . . . . . . White Bread
68 . . . . . . Mars Bar
67 . . . . . . Shredded Wheat
66 . . . . . . Swiss Museli
66 . . . . . . Brown Rice
64 . . . . . . Raisins
64 . . . . . . Beets
62 . . . . . . Bananas
59 . . . . . . SUCROSE
59 . . . . . . Sweet Corn
59 . . . . . . Pastry
51 . . . . . . Bran
51 . . . . . . Green Peas
51 . . . . . . Potato Chips
51 . . . . . . Sweet Potato
50 . . . . . . White Spaghetti
49 . . . Oatmeal (not on previous list)
45 . . . . . . Grapes
42 . . . . . . Whole Grain Rye Bread
42 . . . . . . Whole Wheat Spaghetti
40 . . . . . . Orange
39 . . . . . . Apples
38 . . . . . . Tomatos
36 . . . . . . Ice Cream
36 . . . . . . Chick-Peas
36 . . . . . . Lima Beans
36 . . . . . . Yogurt
34 . . . . . . Milk, Whole
32 . . . . . . Milk, Skim
29 . . . . . . Kidney Beans
29 . . . . . . Lentils
34 . . . . . . Pears
28 . . . . . . Sausages
26 . . . . . . Peaches
26 . . . . . . Grapefruit
25 . . . . . . Plums
23 . . . . . . Cherries
20 . . . . . . FRUCTOSE
15 . . . . . . Soybeans
13 . . . . . . Peanuts
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Old 22-02-2004, 09:26 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Wicked, thanks for that guys, I can work out my diet now I'm sure theres something there I like, celery is nice, though I like salt on it, is this ok?
 
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Mate, you will lose sh*tloads of muscle on only 1500cals a day, no matter how much protien you eat.

Multiply your weight in lbs by 15. This is your calorie maintenence figure, subtract 500ckals from your total and you should have a nice steady total of cals for losing fat.

I don't know what you think about diet splits but I find 60% Protein 20% Carb 20% Fat split works well for losing fat.

For example if you weigh 200lbs your calorie maintenence figure would be 3000ckals and your cutting figure would be 2500kcals

2500 x .60 = 1500kcals (protein)
2500 x .20 = 500kcals (carbs)
2500 x .20 = 500kcals (fat)

1g protein = 4kcals
1g carbs =kcals
1g fat = 9kcals

So you should aim to eat:

1500kcals / 4 = 375g of protein per day
500kcals / 4 = 125g carbs per day
500kcals / 9 = 56g fat per day

However bro the above is just a suggestion. If I remember correctly you are on a cycle at the moment, don't be impatient to lose fat straight after a cycle, your test levels will be low and jumping straight into low-calorie dieting will lose a lot of muscle.

Carbs are not the enemy bro, we need them to survive, needless to say I am not a fan of low carb dieting.

Fat-loss is a gradual thing bro, you can't drop loads of bodyfat in a short peroid, give it time and you will lose fat.

Stick to cardio 4-5 times a week consider HIIT or if you want to do steady-state keep sessions to 30mins at the most.

Best of luck, Jock
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you could add in some t3 mate but if you do make sure you do some research first so you know what you are doing.
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I've asked this before but can't remember where I asked it, what the fcuk is T3? I might do EQ/test cycle while I'm cutting to save muscle
 
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what is hgh, and what does it do?
is it legal? or is it a steroid?
do u inject it? an dhow much is it? if this is not a bad question i know u guys don't like prices of roids being discussed but i don't know if it is or not?
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what is hgh, and what does it do?
is it legal? or is it a steroid?
do u inject it? an dhow much is it? if this is not a bad question i know u guys don't like prices of roids being discussed but i don't know if it is or not?
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Thanks Robin. Hgh (human growth hormone) Very expensive. I dont think you get the gains for the price. IU is the mesurment of the water to the hgh.
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Nice post Jock. Very informative. I agree with that post. The only thing I would add to it is the carbs you eat are the difference. Insanity. Eat brocolli, tomatoes, peachs, nuts, spinish, celery. If your diet was comprised of those carbs you will be healthier and the high fiber just works great for the body. Fish, turkey, chicken, you would get ripped. Diet is key. Go to the list and