If excess bodyfat is carbohydrates then? - Page 2 - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

Swift · 25-04-2006, 11:12 PM

i tried cuttin out carbs thinking the same as you once an it made me feel awful, not sure if it was a direct result of that but i felt like ****

**Pscarb** · 25-04-2006, 11:25 PM

drasticly cutting carbs out of your diet without thinking of replacing the cals lost with extra protein and good fats is suicide...unfortunatly people look at the easy option and dropping carbs will make you drop weight garenteed but if you do not spend the time planning the diet you will be fatigued and the fatloss will be very little most weight loss will be in the way of water loss..

Swift · 25-04-2006, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pscarb

drasticly cutting carbs out of your diet without thinking of replacing the cals lost with extra protein and good fats is suicide...unfortunatly people look at the easy option and dropping carbs will make you drop weight garenteed but if you do not spend the time planning the diet you will be fatigued and the fatloss will be very little most weight loss will be in the way of water loss..

spot on, i realised quickly something wasn't right an changed back to a proper diet

**Tinytom** · 26-04-2006, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Tatyana

Hun,

your body will store anything in excess into fat. Protein into fat, fat into fat, not just carbohydrates. It's clever that way.

Don't agree with this.

The body will do what it easiest and therefore excess fat and carbohydrates will be converted to bodyfat more readily than protein.

It's already been said that amino acids can be converted to glucose by gluconeogenesis. COnsidering that the body uses 20% of the calories derived from protein just in digesting and processing it and the additional calories in converting amino acids to glucose, it seems unlikely that it would then convert it to fat.

More likely it would just excrete it through the urine.

I don't know anyone that got fat through excessive protein intake.

Tatyana · 26-04-2006, 11:22 AM

True the thermogenic quality of protein is higher so less likely.

I think if someone ate a cow every day it might happen.

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**Tinytom** · 26-04-2006, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tatyana

I think if someone ate a cow every day it might happen.

What an Udderly insane suggestion.

I moove that no-one could eat a whole cow.

I think you are milking the point.

Swift · 26-04-2006, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinytom

What an Udderly insane suggestion.

I moove that no-one could eat a whole cow.

I think you are milking the point.

lol nice post

**hackskii** · 26-04-2006, 03:55 PM

Well, large volume of food regardless of macros will raise insulin and cholesterol.
Eating like this is not a good idea.
Smaller meals do not have this effect on insulin unless they are of the high glycemic persuasion.

Feast and famine is what you are telling the body you are doing with big meals.
Now this could be an approach if lets say you didn’t eat for a couple of days then the body’s stores will be utilized from that meal that was saved for just this occasion.

Eating smaller meals will speed the metabolism, have better control of spiking blood sugar levels, lower insulin production and have less inflammation in the body, not to mention lower cholesterol levels as well.
Not only that, but also help with insulin sensitivity.

So if you keep the meals smaller, eat more frequently, eat fats, proteins, carbohydrates together in about equal proportions you will be less likely to store fat and more likely to lose body fat if this is what you are shooting for.
Not only that, but in the presence of insulin, fat loss stops dead and also GH production.

**Pscarb** · 27-04-2006, 01:06 PM

i wonder if we had a p1ssing contest who would win

Tatyana · 27-04-2006, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pscarb

i wonder if we had a p1ssing contest who would win

OH don't get me started Paul. It would fall in that 'too much information' category or 'only in Europe/France' would they do something like that!

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I have had a very interesting and full on life!

**Tinytom** · 27-04-2006, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pscarb

i wonder if we had a p1ssing contest who would win

That depends if you are talking about volume of urine or length of stream.

Or maybe colour?

Or smell?

Not very specific Mr Scarb?

**Pscarb** · 27-04-2006, 10:21 PM

i think i have made my point.....

this member who has not replied on this thread....asked a basic question which in fairness was answered but then we had to all get all deep and technical with the answers that where given...in my opinion some of the answers where to much and are very hard for some people to follow...

Tatyana · 28-04-2006, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinytom

That depends if you are talking about volume of urine or length of stream.

Or maybe colour?

Or smell?

Not very specific Mr Scarb?

:love: and I just about wet myself laughing!

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I could tell you exactly why you wee is yellow and poo is brown! Biochemically speaking.

Paul you have a point. I do think we need the KISS principle Keep It Simple Stupid

Sorry, couldn't help myself with the wee thing though. I didn't go into detail though. I could! I luuuuuuuuuuuuuurve biochemical pathways.

OH PLEASE let me have the space to put up the details of that one at some point.

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25-04-2006, 11:12 PM	#16 (permalink)
Swift Newbie Trainer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 16	i tried cuttin out carbs thinking the same as you once an it made me feel awful, not sure if it was a direct result of that but i felt like ****

25-04-2006, 11:25 PM	#17 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,963	drasticly cutting carbs out of your diet without thinking of replacing the cals lost with extra protein and good fats is suicide...unfortunatly people look at the easy option and dropping carbs will make you drop weight garenteed but if you do not spend the time planning the diet you will be fatigued and the fatloss will be very little most weight loss will be in the way of water loss..

26-04-2006, 11:22 AM	#20 (permalink)
Tatyana My name is EARL Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: On my bloody bike doing cardio Posts: 3,477	True the thermogenic quality of protein is higher so less likely. I think if someone ate a cow every day it might happen. x x x T

26-04-2006, 03:55 PM	#23 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 24,337	Well, large volume of food regardless of macros will raise insulin and cholesterol. Eating like this is not a good idea. Smaller meals do not have this effect on insulin unless they are of the high glycemic persuasion. Feast and famine is what you are telling the body you are doing with big meals. Now this could be an approach if lets say you didn’t eat for a couple of days then the body’s stores will be utilized from that meal that was saved for just this occasion. Eating smaller meals will speed the metabolism, have better control of spiking blood sugar levels, lower insulin production and have less inflammation in the body, not to mention lower cholesterol levels as well. Not only that, but also help with insulin sensitivity. So if you keep the meals smaller, eat more frequently, eat fats, proteins, carbohydrates together in about equal proportions you will be less likely to store fat and more likely to lose body fat if this is what you are shooting for. Not only that, but in the presence of insulin, fat loss stops dead and also GH production.

27-04-2006, 01:06 PM	#24 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,963	i wonder if we had a p1ssing contest who would win

27-04-2006, 10:21 PM	#27 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,963	i think i have made my point..... this member who has not replied on this thread....asked a basic question which in fairness was answered but then we had to all get all deep and technical with the answers that where given...in my opinion some of the answers where to much and are very hard for some people to follow...