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SportDr · 01-03-2007, 07:29 AM

Thanks Bro's!

I will try to get some coconut oil, not sure if they have it in Tesco's but will look on Saturday.

My fats today are higher than before as I am running out of chicken

so will see how it goes today.

I hadn't weighed myself till this morning and in only three days I have dropped 2.5 kg! thats a lot of shed water, about 5 pints or 2.5 litres, no wonder I was peeing all the time and was thirsty at the same time. I also notice more quad definition so I am happy to believe that it wasn't all intra muscular water but some from the skin also. If only it had all been fat :(

Will test urine for ketones later and update.

Regards

SD

**hackskii** · 01-03-2007, 03:47 PM

As many times as I tried to get into ketosis, I was always only trace amounts.
I never have been into full blown ketosis.

SportDr · 01-03-2007, 07:36 PM

Day four and still only barely trace ketones

ON a plus side though Paul has put a Low Carb recipe section in the forum, so I have posted my recipes for this week there :beer1:

SD

crazycacti · 01-03-2007, 07:39 PM

i must be an exception - i get into ketosis really, really quickly - 2 days and i'm in... i hardly rely on keto sticks anymore - just now and again to check really

winger · 02-03-2007, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazycacti

i must be an exception - i get into ketosis really, really quickly - 2 days and i'm in... i hardly rely on keto sticks anymore - just now and again to check really

I say we ban crazycacti........lol.

In ketosis, you will never burn more fat, period!

SportDr · 02-03-2007, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winger

I say we ban crazycacti........lol.

In ketosis, you will never burn more fat, period!

What do you mean Wingman? Ketosis is the state gained when you burn fat preferentially for fuel though isn't it?

SD

winger · 02-03-2007, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportDr

What do you mean Wingman? Ketosis is the state gained when you burn fat preferentially for fuel though isn't it?

SD

Yes and the byproduct is ketones.

SportDr · 02-03-2007, 03:12 PM

So what dod you mean when you said in Ketosis you will never burn more fat period! That was a little abstract for me :crazy: :p

SD

crazycacti · 02-03-2007, 03:16 PM

don't worry winger... i've got you - we're on the same wavelength, lol!!

**hackskii** · 02-03-2007, 03:58 PM

I think he ment that fat loss is excellerated during ketosis.

mickus · 02-03-2007, 03:59 PM

Haya PsCarb

Just wanted to say awesome post mate this was exactly what i was looking for, I was just about to post a message asking all those sorta questions problem solvered

Cant wait to give it a run!!!

Cheers mate

winger · 03-03-2007, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportDr

So what dod you mean when you said in Ketosis you will never burn more fat period! That was a little abstract for me :crazy: :p

SD

Let me dumb it down for ya! :crazy:

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackskii

I think he ment that fat loss is excellerated during ketosis.

Bingo.
SD, I hope you wont question the word bingo.

During carb cycling, I really think very few people will ever get into ketosis. The key to carb cycling is to keep the body guessing. Me thinks.

SportDr · 03-03-2007, 08:32 AM

Lol cheeky Wingnut!

I finally reached ketosis yesterday, was the day before my reefeed though, oh well! I had ++ ketones on the stick which went an exciting shade of purple

There were a couple of things that were different though, my meal number 2 wasn't really eaten, it was 300g cold smoked mackeral with spinach and Udo's, at 10am I just couldn't face it, so I ate the spinach and a few forks of the fish, then left it so I was down on my cals by 500 approx. Also I had a little sex session for 30 minutes, not a mills and boon type romance sex, but hardcore shagg1ng if you know what I mean. I tested my post coital p1ss et voila, lots of ketones! So was it the fact that it was day 5 of very low carb diet, or that I was cal depleted that day, or because I had sex for the first time that week (she had a cold the thoughtless b1tch :p ) just before, or a combination of the above??

I am also another 1/2 kilo down, making 3 1/2 kilos (water probably) total in 5 days, double result!

Maybe the key to kikstarting the ketosis is cardio?

SD

Jock · 03-03-2007, 05:26 PM

Sounds good mate (the shagging and the ketosis!)

**hackskii** · 03-03-2007, 06:30 PM

I would try and stay in ketosis for now and drop the refeed.
See if you stay in ketosis.
I see this as the body using alot of fat for fuel, glycogen stores are probably depleted but if you are in ketosis alot of fat is being burned for fuel.
That fat is comming from you and your fat you are taking in.
It might even be the udos oil that tossed you into ketosis.
I do know there are a couple of things that will push you into ketosis, very low carb and alot of fat.
Id sit there for a couple of days and check your urine for ketosis.

01-03-2007, 07:29 AM	#31 (permalink)
SportDr Getting HUGE! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: E-Sussex UK Posts: 2,623	Re: Timed Carbs Thanks Bro's! I will try to get some coconut oil, not sure if they have it in Tesco's but will look on Saturday. My fats today are higher than before as I am running out of chicken so will see how it goes today. I hadn't weighed myself till this morning and in only three days I have dropped 2.5 kg! thats a lot of shed water, about 5 pints or 2.5 litres, no wonder I was peeing all the time and was thirsty at the same time. I also notice more quad definition so I am happy to believe that it wasn't all intra muscular water but some from the skin also. If only it had all been fat :( Will test urine for ketones later and update. Regards SD __________________ I don't like Sports and I am not a Doctor! You expressed and challenged yourself, startled the dozing muscles and welcomed the sweet pain of gain. Boredom begets mediocrity. Enemies both, they deserve swift eradication. Let's hit the weights and build some muscle. Race ya to the bench press. Dave Draper A goal casually set and lightly taken will be freely abandoned at the first obstacle. Zig Ziglar Any advice given is for information only, always seek the advice of your medical practitioner. Use this My Protein refferer code and get a 5% DISCOUNT on your first order! MP2819

01-03-2007, 03:47 PM	#32 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,049	Re: Timed Carbs As many times as I tried to get into ketosis, I was always only trace amounts. I never have been into full blown ketosis. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

01-03-2007, 07:36 PM	#33 (permalink)
SportDr Getting HUGE! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: E-Sussex UK Posts: 2,623	Re: Timed Carbs Day four and still only barely trace ketones ON a plus side though Paul has put a Low Carb recipe section in the forum, so I have posted my recipes for this week there :beer1: SD __________________ I don't like Sports and I am not a Doctor! You expressed and challenged yourself, startled the dozing muscles and welcomed the sweet pain of gain. Boredom begets mediocrity. Enemies both, they deserve swift eradication. Let's hit the weights and build some muscle. Race ya to the bench press. Dave Draper A goal casually set and lightly taken will be freely abandoned at the first obstacle. Zig Ziglar Any advice given is for information only, always seek the advice of your medical practitioner. Use this My Protein refferer code and get a 5% DISCOUNT on your first order! MP2819

01-03-2007, 07:39 PM	#34 (permalink)
crazycacti Fat and bulking... Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Isle of Man/Newcastle Posts: 1,417	Re: Timed Carbs i must be an exception - i get into ketosis really, really quickly - 2 days and i'm in... i hardly rely on keto sticks anymore - just now and again to check really __________________ Insulin Spikes? Glycemic Index? Just ask Timmy Smooth... 'Well I've just downed 4 Iceland sausage rolls and my arms are shaking like an epilectic on a bucking bronco.'

02-03-2007, 03:12 PM	#38 (permalink)
SportDr Getting HUGE! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: E-Sussex UK Posts: 2,623	Re: Timed Carbs So what dod you mean when you said in Ketosis you will never burn more fat period! That was a little abstract for me :crazy: :p SD __________________ I don't like Sports and I am not a Doctor! You expressed and challenged yourself, startled the dozing muscles and welcomed the sweet pain of gain. Boredom begets mediocrity. Enemies both, they deserve swift eradication. Let's hit the weights and build some muscle. Race ya to the bench press. Dave Draper A goal casually set and lightly taken will be freely abandoned at the first obstacle. Zig Ziglar Any advice given is for information only, always seek the advice of your medical practitioner. Use this My Protein refferer code and get a 5% DISCOUNT on your first order! MP2819

02-03-2007, 03:16 PM	#39 (permalink)
crazycacti Fat and bulking... Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Isle of Man/Newcastle Posts: 1,417	Re: Timed Carbs don't worry winger... i've got you - we're on the same wavelength, lol!! __________________ Insulin Spikes? Glycemic Index? Just ask Timmy Smooth... 'Well I've just downed 4 Iceland sausage rolls and my arms are shaking like an epilectic on a bucking bronco.'

02-03-2007, 03:58 PM	#40 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,049	Re: Timed Carbs I think he ment that fat loss is excellerated during ketosis. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

02-03-2007, 03:59 PM	#41 (permalink)
mickus Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North London Posts: 518	Re: Timed Carbs Haya PsCarb Just wanted to say awesome post mate this was exactly what i was looking for, I was just about to post a message asking all those sorta questions problem solvered Cant wait to give it a run!!! Cheers mate

03-03-2007, 08:32 AM	#43 (permalink)
SportDr Getting HUGE! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: E-Sussex UK Posts: 2,623	Re: Timed Carbs Lol cheeky Wingnut! I finally reached ketosis yesterday, was the day before my reefeed though, oh well! I had ++ ketones on the stick which went an exciting shade of purple There were a couple of things that were different though, my meal number 2 wasn't really eaten, it was 300g cold smoked mackeral with spinach and Udo's, at 10am I just couldn't face it, so I ate the spinach and a few forks of the fish, then left it so I was down on my cals by 500 approx. Also I had a little sex session for 30 minutes, not a mills and boon type romance sex, but hardcore shagg1ng if you know what I mean. I tested my post coital p1ss et voila, lots of ketones! So was it the fact that it was day 5 of very low carb diet, or that I was cal depleted that day, or because I had sex for the first time that week (she had a cold the thoughtless b1tch :p ) just before, or a combination of the above?? I am also another 1/2 kilo down, making 3 1/2 kilos (water probably) total in 5 days, double result! Maybe the key to kikstarting the ketosis is cardio? SD __________________ I don't like Sports and I am not a Doctor! You expressed and challenged yourself, startled the dozing muscles and welcomed the sweet pain of gain. Boredom begets mediocrity. Enemies both, they deserve swift eradication. Let's hit the weights and build some muscle. Race ya to the bench press. Dave Draper A goal casually set and lightly taken will be freely abandoned at the first obstacle. Zig Ziglar Any advice given is for information only, always seek the advice of your medical practitioner. Use this My Protein refferer code and get a 5% DISCOUNT on your first order! MP2819

03-03-2007, 05:26 PM	#44 (permalink)
Jock LEAGUE LEGEND! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 3,031	Re: Timed Carbs Sounds good mate (the shagging and the ketosis!) __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

03-03-2007, 06:30 PM	#45 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,049	Re: Timed Carbs I would try and stay in ketosis for now and drop the refeed. See if you stay in ketosis. I see this as the body using alot of fat for fuel, glycogen stores are probably depleted but if you are in ketosis alot of fat is being burned for fuel. That fat is comming from you and your fat you are taking in. It might even be the udos oil that tossed you into ketosis. I do know there are a couple of things that will push you into ketosis, very low carb and alot of fat. Id sit there for a couple of days and check your urine for ketosis. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.