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big_blue · 05-03-2006, 09:30 PM

Alright guys, first of all fantastic site, i've been sat here looking through posts/comments etc for about 2 and a half hours now.

Any hoo, i weigh 25 stone and stand at 6'3" tall, so obviously im well overweight. After seeing a good mate of mine train for the past 4 years and see him grow both physically and mentally, im jealous of him. I've spent the last 4 years partying, drinking, and enjoying myself and not giving a sh*t about my body. This mentality has seen me go from 18 stone to a massive 25 stone and seeing my confidence and general outgoing being shot down.

So tonight i am making a stance, im making a change. I can't explain it (maybe some of you have experienced this before) but something inside me has snapped/clicked and im going to change myself, my lifestyle etc. I want to get into shape and really get into bodybuilding/training. I have the determination and will to do this and its something that really excites me.

I'm 22 years old and live in Manchester, and whilst i do have the will and determination i dont quite have the knowledge yet. I need to know about calorie intake, training i should be doing, cardio etc etc.

So basically i thought i would introduce myself, and let you know i'll be around a lot taking in any tips i read on posts etc. So if any of you have any tips for me - food to eat, calories intake, a good regime to follow it would be well appreciated.

Thanks for reading, and as i say, any help would be appreciated.

Thanks again.

trickymicky69 · 05-03-2006, 09:51 PM

we all have to start somewhere. you are in the right place for help. losing weight is a lifestyle change not a quick fix. we are here to help you and help you we will

**hackskii** · 05-03-2006, 10:58 PM

There are alot of posts that pertain to this on this board.

about the only real help i can give you is:
Eat within 30 minutes apon awakening.
6 meals a day
All meals should contain proteins/fats/ carbohydrates.
Stay away from sugar, alcohol, flower, processed foods, potato chips, bagged junkfoods.
Drink lots of water
Fruits
vegetables

this will get you going

chesh · 06-03-2006, 10:15 AM

Arnold Schwarzeneggers book "education of a bodybuilder 1977" is great for motivation, knowledge, diet plans and even workout plans that got me started mate. Try having a read!

hovis · 06-03-2006, 10:59 AM

big blue, i was same as you a few years ago(just over 20st ) i lost 8st . the best advice i can give is join a gym! i was a bit embaraced when i first joined, thinking every one would be looking at me but they dident. also eat healthy cut out all the crap eat plenty of fruit & veg you could start by walking 10-30 mins a day, but if you join a gym they will give you a programe to follow. GOOD LUCK

big_blue · 06-03-2006, 01:21 PM

Cheers for the replies guys. Might sound a bit 'movie' but i got up this morning with more energy than i've had for a long time...and i haven't even done anything yet, it was just the fact that i knew i was going to be doing something and that my life was changing that day.

Anyway, i was up at 6.30am this morning, i had a quick breakfast of oats and 2 eggs and went to the gym. Now i wasn't/aren't to sure on what is best for pre-workout so i thought i'd go with that breakfast before the gym. Anyway, at the gym with a bodybuilding mate of mine, and i concentrated on cardio work, i did 45 minutes of cardio before i started to feel knackered. I had a 10 minute break and topped up with some much needed water, then set out doin 30 minutes lifting. When we finished there i had a protein shake (purchased at the gym, im not sure on the brand) and had a can of tuna and a slice of wholemeal bread.

At the moment im aching but i feel really good. As i said before im not to sure if im eating the right things at the right times, should i be having more protein PWO? Should i be eating what i ate pre-workout? Any suggestions on training? Should i concentrate on cardio more, of lifting more?

Any suggestions would be great, thanks again guys, your an inspiration.

**Tinytom** · 06-03-2006, 01:42 PM

Cardio After Weights = Fat Loss

Cardio before weights = Glycogen usage and lack of energy when lifting = minimal fat loss

I also wouldn't eat if you train first thing, take some BCAAs and Glutamine instead - this will help you burn fat as it helps the body to produce catecholimides in order to burn fat and spare muscle.

Make sure you get a good whey protein shake (60g whey) in after training with some simple carbs (40g)

trickymicky69 · 06-03-2006, 01:59 PM

what are catecholimides tom?

05-03-2006, 09:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
big_blue Newbie Trainer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4	Beginner needing help Alright guys, first of all fantastic site, i've been sat here looking through posts/comments etc for about 2 and a half hours now. Any hoo, i weigh 25 stone and stand at 6'3" tall, so obviously im well overweight. After seeing a good mate of mine train for the past 4 years and see him grow both physically and mentally, im jealous of him. I've spent the last 4 years partying, drinking, and enjoying myself and not giving a sh*t about my body. This mentality has seen me go from 18 stone to a massive 25 stone and seeing my confidence and general outgoing being shot down. So tonight i am making a stance, im making a change. I can't explain it (maybe some of you have experienced this before) but something inside me has snapped/clicked and im going to change myself, my lifestyle etc. I want to get into shape and really get into bodybuilding/training. I have the determination and will to do this and its something that really excites me. I'm 22 years old and live in Manchester, and whilst i do have the will and determination i dont quite have the knowledge yet. I need to know about calorie intake, training i should be doing, cardio etc etc. So basically i thought i would introduce myself, and let you know i'll be around a lot taking in any tips i read on posts etc. So if any of you have any tips for me - food to eat, calories intake, a good regime to follow it would be well appreciated. Thanks for reading, and as i say, any help would be appreciated. Thanks again.

05-03-2006, 09:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
trickymicky69 Wondering how people have the time to do all this over-complicating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sunnyside up Posts: 1,287	we all have to start somewhere. you are in the right place for help. losing weight is a lifestyle change not a quick fix. we are here to help you and help you we will __________________ 'those who look but do not see, go away no wiser than whence they came"

05-03-2006, 10:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,049	There are alot of posts that pertain to this on this board. about the only real help i can give you is: Eat within 30 minutes apon awakening. 6 meals a day All meals should contain proteins/fats/ carbohydrates. Stay away from sugar, alcohol, flower, processed foods, potato chips, bagged junkfoods. Drink lots of water Fruits vegetables this will get you going __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

06-03-2006, 10:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
chesh Tom! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: biggleswade Posts: 23	Arnold Schwarzeneggers book "education of a bodybuilder 1977" is great for motivation, knowledge, diet plans and even workout plans that got me started mate. Try having a read! __________________ Tom, Age:16 Weight:160lbs Height:6ft Biceps:13,4/8 inches Waist:31 inches

06-03-2006, 01:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
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06-03-2006, 10:59 AM	#5 (permalink)
hovis Gym Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 342	big blue, i was same as you a few years ago(just over 20st ) i lost 8st . the best advice i can give is join a gym! i was a bit embaraced when i first joined, thinking every one would be looking at me but they dident. also eat healthy cut out all the crap eat plenty of fruit & veg you could start by walking 10-30 mins a day, but if you join a gym they will give you a programe to follow. GOOD LUCK

06-03-2006, 01:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
big_blue Newbie Trainer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4	Cheers for the replies guys. Might sound a bit 'movie' but i got up this morning with more energy than i've had for a long time...and i haven't even done anything yet, it was just the fact that i knew i *was* going to be doing something and that my life was changing that day. Anyway, i was up at 6.30am this morning, i had a quick breakfast of oats and 2 eggs and went to the gym. Now i wasn't/aren't to sure on what is best for pre-workout so i thought i'd go with that breakfast before the gym. Anyway, at the gym with a bodybuilding mate of mine, and i concentrated on cardio work, i did 45 minutes of cardio before i started to feel knackered. I had a 10 minute break and topped up with some much needed water, then set out doin 30 minutes lifting. When we finished there i had a protein shake (purchased at the gym, im not sure on the brand) and had a can of tuna and a slice of wholemeal bread. At the moment im aching but i feel really good. As i said before im not to sure if im eating the right things at the right times, should i be having more protein PWO? Should i be eating what i ate pre-workout? Any suggestions on training? Should i concentrate on cardio more, of lifting more? Any suggestions would be great, thanks again guys, your an inspiration.

06-03-2006, 01:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
trickymicky69 Wondering how people have the time to do all this over-complicating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sunnyside up Posts: 1,287	what are catecholimides tom? __________________ 'those who look but do not see, go away no wiser than whence they came"