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TH&S · 22-02-2008, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ecksarmy11

Just wanted to add that for me I feel that the leg press helps build the inner part of my quad just above the knee.

Tear drop...?

Nine Pack · 22-02-2008, 10:58 AM

[quote=TH&S;382483]Tear drop...?[/quote]

AKA medialis. Sorry, no more big words. On the subject of which movements are best & spike natural test & GH, as a general rule, free standing movements will place a slightly higher neurological stress on the system & may result in higher test/GH levels. I think in the real world though, the degree to which this is noticeable in your physique over leg press & similar movements is not visible.

So long as you go heavy enough to challenge the muscle & keep good form I don't think it matters. As I've said before, I've never done so much as a single rep of traditional back squats & my legs aren't too bad.

TH&S · 22-02-2008, 11:14 AM

[quote=Nine Pack;382512]

Quote:

Originally Posted by TH&S

Tear drop...?[/quote]

AKA medialis. Sorry, no more big words. On the subject of which movements are best & spike natural test & GH, as a general rule, free standing movements will place a slightly higher neurological stress on the system & may result in higher test/GH levels. I think in the real world though, the degree to which this is noticeable in your physique over leg press & similar movements is not visible.

So long as you go heavy enough to challenge the muscle & keep good form I don't think it matters. As I've said before, I've never done so much as a single rep of traditional back squats & my legs aren't too bad.

Ahhh yes the medialis... Thats my favourite of the 3 delt sisters.... :rolleye11

Are you legs honed through years of un-assisted training though?

Without going through the full "Red Dwarf" scene I'd be willing to stake my reputation ("What reputation?", "Well I'm hoping to gain one...." etc etc etc) on the fact that natural trainees simply cannot train the same way that assisted trainees can.

Sadly I'm unable to back this up by entering a p1ssing contest with anyone and whipping out my massive legs/guns/wings etc (before anyone starts :rolleye11)

Nine Pack · 22-02-2008, 11:31 AM

[quote=TH&S;382524]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine Pack

Ahhh yes the medialis... Thats my favourite of the 3 delt sisters.... :rolleye11

Are you legs honed through years of un-assisted training though?

Without going through the full "Red Dwarf" scene I'd be willing to stake my reputation ("What reputation?", "Well I'm hoping to gain one...." etc etc etc) on the fact that natural trainees simply cannot train the same way that assisted trainees can.

Sadly I'm unable to back this up by entering a p1ssing contest with anyone and whipping out my massive legs/guns/wings etc (before anyone starts :rolleye11)

This is true to an extent, but not as much as a lot of natties think. In reality it's actually the gear users that would benefit from not using quite so many drop sets, forced negatives & supersets etc. A natty can still train hard & go to failure, but this is where we all need to stop (with only the occasional use of these techniques). Granted, the non natty may see greater results for the effort, but this does not mean that a natty can't train the same way.

TH&S · 22-02-2008, 11:39 AM

[quote=Nine Pack;382532]

Quote:

Originally Posted by TH&S

This is true to an extent, but not as much as a lot of natties think. In reality it's actually the gear users that would benefit from not using quite so many drop sets, forced negatives & supersets etc. A natty can still train hard & go to failure, but this is where we all need to stop (with only the occasional use of these techniques). Granted, the non natty may see greater results for the effort, but this does not mean that a natty can't train the same way.

Appologies to the O.P. as this is somewhat of a thread hijack...

9Pack in which case what would you prescribe as a 3 day split for a natty?

A sample routine of mine is this:

Pull
Deads
Pulls Ups (Palms facing) / Lat Pulldowns
Rows (Palms facing if Lat Pulldowns were done)

Legs
Squats
SLDL

Push
Bench (Different month, different flavour)
Dips
OHP
CGBP

I'm smoked at the end of each workout, using cyclical progression to increase the weight and hit failure on most exercises and most workouts.

If a natty can train like an assisted trainee how would you change the above?

(Not flaming BTW - am genuinely interested)

**Pscarb** · 22-02-2008, 11:56 AM

Tall yes mate what i meant was that i rate LP over Squats, i am lucky i have genetically got big legs, i have not been able to squat since my accident in 1996 but i did squat both front and rear before this.

This last year is the first year in 10yrs that i have trained my legs every week in fact in 2005 i only trained them in the last 3months before i competed, my legs have grown considerably using Leg Press so i cannot advise anyone not to use this movement..

this issue is that most can do the leg press correctly using a good standard of weight and grow but there are only few BB's i have seen that squat correctly with a decent amount of weight most either lean forward to far or don't go down enough or to much i just think many believe that if you squat then you will grow big legs but this i believe is not true.

i believe that you can grow your quads just as efficiently with Leg press as you can with Squats but in a safer position...

shorty · 22-02-2008, 03:55 PM

i agree Paul... i find squats very uncomforatable so much so that i find i cant concentrate on them properly, and tend to feel nothing on the legs and more on my back ..then they hurt my knees... (pussy i know

)... but leg presses are a great alternative, so are hacks and my legs have grown well without squats too...!

simeon69 · 22-02-2008, 04:20 PM

shorty i used to have the back pain on squats going heavy till i got a belt and its helped so much better have you tried one?

Nine Pack · 22-02-2008, 08:56 PM

[quote=TH&S;382536]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine Pack

Appologies to the O.P. as this is somewhat of a thread hijack...

9Pack in which case what would you prescribe as a 3 day split for a natty?

A sample routine of mine is this:

Pull
Deads
Pulls Ups (Palms facing) / Lat Pulldowns
Rows (Palms facing if Lat Pulldowns were done)

Legs
Squats
SLDL

Push
Bench (Different month, different flavour)
Dips
OHP
CGBP

I'm smoked at the end of each workout, using cyclical progression to increase the weight and hit failure on most exercises and most workouts.

If a natty can train like an assisted trainee how would you change the above?

(Not flaming BTW - am genuinely interested)

I'll start another thread tomorrow bud & give my take on it.

Ecksarmy11 · 23-02-2008, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ecksarmy11

I've also got an appointment with the quack this afternoon. Probably a waste of time but I'll let you know what he says also.

He has given me a card to go to the hospital for a "Lumbosacral spine x-ray"

Card also says "pain in distribution of left sciatic nerve on performing leg presses"

I was impressed he knew what a leg press was !

I'll post again after I get a chance to go for the x-ray and find out more.

DRED · 03-03-2008, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ecksarmy11

He has given me a card to go to the hospital for a "Lumbosacral spine x-ray"

Card also says "pain in distribution of left sciatic nerve on performing leg presses"

I was impressed he knew what a leg press was !

I'll post again after I get a chance to go for the x-ray and find out more.

hi mate when i was having problems with my back i went to BUPA its not as dear as you might think.
i had an x.ray(which you get the results strait away).
and a consultation for £80.
then i got refered back to the NHS and got an MRI scan there.
my back problems were mainly caused by tight hamstrings,so you could try training them first when doing legs.
also having a leg massage might help.

22-02-2008, 10:58 AM	#17 (permalink)
Nine Pack Shouldn't be let out loose.... Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Manchester Posts: 1,649	Re: Leg Press [quote=TH&S;382483]Tear drop...?[/quote] AKA medialis. Sorry, no more big words. On the subject of which movements are best & spike natural test & GH, as a general rule, free standing movements will place a slightly higher neurological stress on the system & may result in higher test/GH levels. I think in the real world though, the degree to which this is noticeable in your physique over leg press & similar movements is not visible. So long as you go heavy enough to challenge the muscle & keep good form I don't think it matters. As I've said before, I've never done so much as a single rep of traditional back squats & my legs aren't too bad. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ''I reject your reality and substitute my own'' Adam Savage.

22-02-2008, 11:56 AM	#21 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,462	Re: Leg Press Tall yes mate what i meant was that i rate LP over Squats, i am lucky i have genetically got big legs, i have not been able to squat since my accident in 1996 but i did squat both front and rear before this. This last year is the first year in 10yrs that i have trained my legs every week in fact in 2005 i only trained them in the last 3months before i competed, my legs have grown considerably using Leg Press so i cannot advise anyone not to use this movement.. this issue is that most can do the leg press correctly using a good standard of weight and grow but there are only few BB's i have seen that squat correctly with a decent amount of weight most either lean forward to far or don't go down enough or to much i just think many believe that if you squat then you will grow big legs but this i believe is not true. i believe that you can grow your quads just as efficiently with Leg press as you can with Squats but in a safer position... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Nutrition is your greatest anabolic agent; everything else is just the icing on the cake

22-02-2008, 03:55 PM	#22 (permalink)
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22-02-2008, 04:20 PM	#23 (permalink)
simeon69 146lbs to 212lbs Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: birmingham Posts: 330	Re: Leg Press shorty i used to have the back pain on squats going heavy till i got a belt and its helped so much better have you tried one? __________________ PAIN IS TEMPORARY FAILURE LASTS FOREVER!!

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