when i do standing military press it feels like my back is about to give in - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

colt24 · 14-12-2007, 10:30 PM

when i do standing military press it feels like my back is about to give in.

i bend my legs abit and and arch my back abit, but still i get this numb pain in my spin as if i'm about to snap smothing :O

help?
thanks

genesis · 14-12-2007, 10:36 PM

What weight are you using? Do you use a belt? how far apart are your feet? Have you tried doing them seated on a smith machine?

TH&S · 14-12-2007, 10:37 PM

How much are you trying to press? How tall are you? What do you weigh? How long have you been training?

What happens if you do the press seated?

Have you tried with a lifting belt?

TH&S · 14-12-2007, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by genesis

What weight are you using? Do you use a belt? how far apart are your feet? Have you tried doing them seated on a smith machine?

lol ^^^^^ snap

**hackskii** · 14-12-2007, 10:45 PM

I get this with standing military, but not clean and presses.
You are probably arching your back more than you think.
I would wear a belt with those.

**Nytol** · 14-12-2007, 11:14 PM

I would do them seated with a barbell myself, unless you have good reason to do the standing version?

colt24 · 15-12-2007, 12:42 PM

hey,

I'm doing 40kg on straight bar

my legs are shoulder width

i'm about 5-9 ft

and weigh 12 stone.

And i'm not using a belt :(

I get no probs when using the shoulder press machine

**Tinytom** · 15-12-2007, 01:50 PM

standing MP is really a light weight exercise

I only do about 25kg and I'm 98kg and with a fair amount of muscle

I would sack that weight off and go for seated DB press or smith machine

and use a belt for the sake of your back

ONE SMART COOKIE · 15-12-2007, 03:10 PM

Sounds like your lower back and maybe core are the weak links...

Reduce weight by 10-20kgs, then when lifting make sure your abs & glutes are held tight to stabilise you, you may even feel you need to tighten hamstrings and thighs a little..

The tightening of the muscles will aid in *grounding* you and give you a solid base to lift from...

Look at exercises to strengthen *core* and dump the belt IMO let your own bodies *inner belt* (core muscles) start to learn to take the strain..

Porky Pie · 15-12-2007, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinytom

standing MP is really a light weight exercise

I only do about 25kg and I'm 98kg and with a fair amount of muscle

I would sack that weight off and go for seated DB press or smith machine

and use a belt for the sake of your back

Why such a light weight Tom? You didn't build those shoulders with light weights....??

colt24 · 15-12-2007, 08:08 PM

Will i get the same result using the smith machine?

invisiblekid · 15-12-2007, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colt24

Will i get the same result using the smith machine?

Why would you? I find that a Smith just ruins my joints. If you do a standing press with a BB then carry on doing that. If it hurts your back, then sit down. A word of caution though. If you sit, you can actually put more pressure on your lower spine because this is where all the weight bares down on.

Always tense your core when lifting.

I'm up to 60kg for 8, slow and controlled - not too much, but enough to grow - I sometimes use a belt, but since doing a lot of direct core work (since a lower back injury ironically enough) I find I'm much more stable.

Nice post Cookie - I'd very much look at his advice.

**big** · 15-12-2007, 11:27 PM

Video your lift and watch it back. I bet it is predominantly a form issue.

It may also be a weakness in your lower back.

You mention 40kg on a straight bar - so is that 60kg in total? How much are you bench pressing and squatting (to get some kind of idea of comparison)?

colt24 · 16-12-2007, 12:04 AM

I'm doing a 15kg bar, with 10kg and 2.5 each side
so 40 kg altogether

deadlift 95kg

bench i'm doing 70kg

squatting 50kg, legs are weak.

I think its a form issue, though i finding it hard to correct my postions as my spine feels like its about to snap

invisiblekid · 16-12-2007, 12:08 AM

If its an Oly bar it's 20kg?

40kg and a bench at 70kg doesn't seem too far out.

50kg squat is poor imo if your deads are at 95kg - are you sure its a leg problem or is it a back/form problem?

14-12-2007, 10:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
colt24 Getting there.. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Essex Posts: 232	when i do standing military press it feels like my back is about to give in when i do standing military press it feels like my back is about to give in. i bend my legs abit and and arch my back abit, but still i get this numb pain in my spin as if i'm about to snap smothing :O help? thanks

14-12-2007, 10:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
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colt24 Getting there.. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Essex Posts: 232	Re: when i do standing military press it feels like my back is about to give in hey, I'm doing 40kg on straight bar my legs are shoulder width i'm about 5-9 ft and weigh 12 stone. And i'm not using a belt :( I get no probs when using the shoulder press machine

15-12-2007, 01:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
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ONE SMART COOKIE Decided to leave due to idiots & and their over inflated egos Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,015	Re: when i do standing military press it feels like my back is about to give in Sounds like your lower back and maybe core are the weak links... Reduce weight by 10-20kgs, then when lifting make sure your abs & glutes are held tight to stabilise you, you may even feel you need to tighten hamstrings and thighs a little.. The tightening of the muscles will aid in grounding you and give you a solid base to lift from... Look at exercises to strengthen core and dump the belt IMO let your own bodies inner belt (core muscles) start to learn to take the strain..

15-12-2007, 08:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
colt24 Getting there.. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Essex Posts: 232	Re: when i do standing military press it feels like my back is about to give in Will i get the same result using the smith machine?

15-12-2007, 11:27 PM	#13 (permalink)
big Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Beer me Posts: 5,184	Re: when i do standing military press it feels like my back is about to give in Video your lift and watch it back. I bet it is predominantly a form issue. It may also be a weakness in your lower back. You mention 40kg on a straight bar - so is that 60kg in total? How much are you bench pressing and squatting (to get some kind of idea of comparison)? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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colt24 Getting there.. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Essex Posts: 232	Re: when i do standing military press it feels like my back is about to give in I'm doing a 15kg bar, with 10kg and 2.5 each side so 40 kg altogether deadlift 95kg bench i'm doing 70kg squatting 50kg, legs are weak. I think its a form issue, though i finding it hard to correct my postions as my spine feels like its about to snap Last edited by colt24; 16-12-2007 at 12:06 AM.

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