Lower bck pain, again! - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

BrokenBack · 07-03-2007, 06:58 AM

Was training legs last night for the 1st time in years, ok dont laught you guys, squats with 30kg , front squats with 30kg then hack squats with 30 kg, plus calfs, all 4 x 10 . Thought i would start off light due to not training them in ages, but even tho i did my lower back left of my spine is hurting today, like a stabbing pain when i bend over, is this just because my core is weak and have to strenthen it up 1st? again havnt done any core work in ages(tut tut). just worried im going to really fuc it up again.

SportDr · 07-03-2007, 07:35 AM

Lower back forms part of your anatomical weight belt, it is possible you have a little muscle damage there.

Core work would definately have supported this area, but Iwonder if your technique was spot on too?

Rest it for a few days and see how you go, I am sure it will go with rest.

For next time:

Core work
Stretch
Technique

We all learn the hard way, me included

SD

BrokenBack · 07-03-2007, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportDr

Lower back forms part of your anatomical weight belt, it is possible you have a little muscle damage there.

Core work would definately have supported this area, but Iwonder if your technique was spot on too?

Rest it for a few days and see how you go, I am sure it will go with rest.

For next time:

Core work
Stretch
Technique

We all learn the hard way, me included

Cheers buddy, Technique should be pretty spot on as im a qualifed personal trainer, need to get a mirror in the garage to double check though, i do need to stretch more, just worried that it may spark off my old injury.

SD

alex.p · 02-05-2007, 09:06 PM

Likr SportDr said leave it for a few days and see how it goes. Had the same thing happen to me a few times. Ibuprofen and rest but dont stay lying down whole time and see how it is.
Turned out to be a trapped nerve once when I had it so if doesn't go away consider seeing a good osteopath.
I know the pain..Bend over wrong and it'll put you on the floor

**Robsta** · 03-05-2007, 02:33 AM

I get bad lower back every time I go over 140 on the squat, so I just go up to 120 now then hit the press for my heavy sets......back is much better for it

BrokenBack · 03-05-2007, 06:58 AM

Ive\over doubled my weights since that post, nd touch wood back's doing fine.

Ollie B · 03-05-2007, 07:03 AM

I seem to get a bad lower back when i lye on it when i sleep. If i sleep on the side i get no pain. I must see a physio

invisiblekid · 03-05-2007, 08:23 AM

Sounds similar to my back pain. Just above the glute by any chance? I have a weak core which lead me to damage ligaments in my back. I'm slowly recovering a year on. I don't do back squats any more, just stick to front squats and my legs are coming along nicely. Deads are still a little way a way, but I've started doing extremely light S/L deads again.

Sounds to me like you over did it with the squats - even though they were light. I'd stick to front squats for the time being.

You have to strengthen your core otherwise you are going to do that same thing again. See a good physio if you can or research core strengthening.

My physio told me to basically brace myself with every lift, bend, twist and turn. Suck in and tense the lower abs and almost clench your buttocks - this will stabilise your core taking the emphasise away from your lower back - which is more than likely taking the strain. This should prevent the injured or weak area from being put under pressure/strain. Once your core is strengthen this kind of bracing will become natural.

mickus · 03-05-2007, 09:17 AM

invisible spot on my physio said the same thing as you and I have the same problem I pretty sure, I am 8 months on from blowing two disc in my lower back and still suffering bad! Been taken Iburuphen for like 6 months twice a day (not good I no) but with out it I am suffering Sciatica so fcuken bad its a joke!

I hate lower back grrrrrrrrr!!!!

Physio, Chiro and still stuffering :( hurting me pocket too coin just dissappearing...

invisiblekid · 03-05-2007, 09:26 AM

Mickus, without hijacking BB's thread, is seeing a Physio and Chiro a good idea? Unless they know what each other is doing they might be over working you or even undoing what the other has done!

Good luck with the recovery.

BrokenBack · 03-05-2007, 01:46 PM

Ive been seeing a chiro, which has really help as the problem was with 2 vertibra not moving properly which could of been caused years ago, so with a 2 year in the training has helped, got a lot more movement back, just dieing to do some heavy squats, im benching neary 3 times what i cant squat which is the wrong way round lol, never mind sure i'll get back there in the end, just taking it easy and not going in all guns blazing and screwing it up again for another 2 years.

BrokenBack · 03-05-2007, 01:52 PM

Ive got one of these flexibak things, which you lie on and do 3 different types of movements on then just lye on it for as long as you want, and ive been surprised at how well it has help my back, i use it striaght after training to releave the muscles, well worth a investment.

LEWIS · 03-05-2007, 02:12 PM

were do you get that from , my back hurts at times when im sleeping - but worse of all when im driving my lower back above my glute and all down my one leg really aches i find comfort in leaning on the other bum cheek - never been to physio over it (maybie one leg is longer than the other?? my shes tend to wear out the grips ot the sides - not even layers

invisiblekid · 03-05-2007, 02:47 PM

Lewis - you could have a strain or a mild disc injury. I'd suggest going to see a physio before it gets any worse. Simply leaning on one leg while standing can cause problems with the ligament in your back. Imagine what can happen then if you are squatting or deadlifting with one leg longer than the other or with a strain in either side of your back. POP! Ouch - 6-12 months out...

See a physio and get it sorted before it becomes a problem is my advice.

BrokenBack · 03-05-2007, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEWIS

were do you get that from , my back hurts at times when im sleeping - but worse of all when im driving my lower back above my glute and all down my one leg really aches i find comfort in leaning on the other bum cheek - never been to physio over it (maybie one leg is longer than the other?? my shes tend to wear out the grips ot the sides - not even layers

Have a look at the link buddy http://www.flexibak.net/

07-03-2007, 06:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
BrokenBack Not as in the gay cowboy film, as in a back injury lol Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: uk Posts: 180	Lower bck pain, again! Was training legs last night for the 1st time in years, ok dont laught you guys, squats with 30kg , front squats with 30kg then hack squats with 30 kg, plus calfs, all 4 x 10 . Thought i would start off light due to not training them in ages, but even tho i did my lower back left of my spine is hurting today, like a stabbing pain when i bend over, is this just because my core is weak and have to strenthen it up 1st? again havnt done any core work in ages(tut tut). just worried im going to really fuc it up again. __________________ "Pain is temporary, pride is forever" "Obsessed is just a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated." :lift:

07-03-2007, 07:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
SportDr Getting HUGE! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: E-Sussex UK Posts: 2,623	Re: Lower bck pain, again! Lower back forms part of your anatomical weight belt, it is possible you have a little muscle damage there. Core work would definately have supported this area, but Iwonder if your technique was spot on too? Rest it for a few days and see how you go, I am sure it will go with rest. For next time: Core work Stretch Technique We all learn the hard way, me included SD __________________ I don't like Sports and I am not a Doctor! You expressed and challenged yourself, startled the dozing muscles and welcomed the sweet pain of gain. Boredom begets mediocrity. Enemies both, they deserve swift eradication. Let's hit the weights and build some muscle. Race ya to the bench press. Dave Draper A goal casually set and lightly taken will be freely abandoned at the first obstacle. Zig Ziglar Any advice given is for information only, always seek the advice of your medical practitioner. Use this My Protein refferer code and get a 5% DISCOUNT on your first order! MP2819

02-05-2007, 09:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
alex.p Newbie Trainer Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 26	Re: Lower bck pain, again! Likr SportDr said leave it for a few days and see how it goes. Had the same thing happen to me a few times. Ibuprofen and rest but dont stay lying down whole time and see how it is. Turned out to be a trapped nerve once when I had it so if doesn't go away consider seeing a good osteopath. I know the pain..Bend over wrong and it'll put you on the floor

03-05-2007, 02:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
Robsta Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bedford Posts: 4,659	Re: Lower bck pain, again! I get bad lower back every time I go over 140 on the squat, so I just go up to 120 now then hit the press for my heavy sets......back is much better for it __________________ Robsta

03-05-2007, 06:58 AM	#6 (permalink)
BrokenBack Not as in the gay cowboy film, as in a back injury lol Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: uk Posts: 180	Re: Lower bck pain, again! Ive\over doubled my weights since that post, nd touch wood back's doing fine. __________________ "Pain is temporary, pride is forever" "Obsessed is just a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated." :lift:

03-05-2007, 07:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
Ollie B UK-Muscle Addict! Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,902	Re: Lower bck pain, again! I seem to get a bad lower back when i lye on it when i sleep. If i sleep on the side i get no pain. I must see a physio

03-05-2007, 08:23 AM	#8 (permalink)
invisiblekid Hitman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 1,521	Re: Lower bck pain, again! Sounds similar to my back pain. Just above the glute by any chance? I have a weak core which lead me to damage ligaments in my back. I'm slowly recovering a year on. I don't do back squats any more, just stick to front squats and my legs are coming along nicely. Deads are still a little way a way, but I've started doing extremely light S/L deads again. Sounds to me like you over did it with the squats - even though they were light. I'd stick to front squats for the time being. You have to strengthen your core otherwise you are going to do that same thing again. See a good physio if you can or research core strengthening. My physio told me to basically brace myself with every lift, bend, twist and turn. Suck in and tense the lower abs and almost clench your buttocks - this will stabilise your core taking the emphasise away from your lower back - which is more than likely taking the strain. This should prevent the injured or weak area from being put under pressure/strain. Once your core is strengthen this kind of bracing will become natural. __________________ Most bodybuilders are actually insane. Albert Einstein defined insanity as "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

03-05-2007, 09:17 AM	#9 (permalink)
mickus Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North London Posts: 519	Re: Lower bck pain, again! invisible spot on my physio said the same thing as you and I have the same problem I pretty sure, I am 8 months on from blowing two disc in my lower back and still suffering bad! Been taken Iburuphen for like 6 months twice a day (not good I no) but with out it I am suffering Sciatica so fcuken bad its a joke! I hate lower back grrrrrrrrr!!!! Physio, Chiro and still stuffering :( hurting me pocket too coin just dissappearing...

03-05-2007, 09:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
invisiblekid Hitman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 1,521	Re: Lower bck pain, again! Mickus, without hijacking BB's thread, is seeing a Physio and Chiro a good idea? Unless they know what each other is doing they might be over working you or even undoing what the other has done! Good luck with the recovery. __________________ Most bodybuilders are actually insane. Albert Einstein defined insanity as "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

03-05-2007, 01:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
BrokenBack Not as in the gay cowboy film, as in a back injury lol Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: uk Posts: 180	Re: Lower bck pain, again! Ive been seeing a chiro, which has really help as the problem was with 2 vertibra not moving properly which could of been caused years ago, so with a 2 year in the training has helped, got a lot more movement back, just dieing to do some heavy squats, im benching neary 3 times what i cant squat which is the wrong way round lol, never mind sure i'll get back there in the end, just taking it easy and not going in all guns blazing and screwing it up again for another 2 years. __________________ "Pain is temporary, pride is forever" "Obsessed is just a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated." :lift:

03-05-2007, 02:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
LEWIS Getting HUGE! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: south wales Posts: 1,038	Re: Lower bck pain, again! were do you get that from , my back hurts at times when im sleeping - but worse of all when im driving my lower back above my glute and all down my one leg really aches i find comfort in leaning on the other bum cheek - never been to physio over it (maybie one leg is longer than the other?? my shes tend to wear out the grips ot the sides - not even layers

03-05-2007, 02:47 PM	#14 (permalink)
invisiblekid Hitman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 1,521	Re: Lower bck pain, again! Lewis - you could have a strain or a mild disc injury. I'd suggest going to see a physio before it gets any worse. Simply leaning on one leg while standing can cause problems with the ligament in your back. Imagine what can happen then if you are squatting or deadlifting with one leg longer than the other or with a strain in either side of your back. POP! Ouch - 6-12 months out... See a physio and get it sorted before it becomes a problem is my advice. __________________ Most bodybuilders are actually insane. Albert Einstein defined insanity as "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

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