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Old 08-09-2005, 02:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Here's my routine and diet any good? advice apreciated

First would like to say hi, new user here .

My names's Paul and im 18, been going to the gym for over six months first started of to loose weight then started to do weights now addicted. My goal is to increase strength and mass. Started of doing everything 3 times a week, would work every muscle. been doing this for 5 months have noticed alot of differnce in my strength and look alot better. Started of at 77.5kg's was podgey, went down to 72kg's with minimal fat started weights now gone upto 86kg's which im pretty chuffed with oh im 6ft tall.

Have seem to hit a stage now where i dont seem to be growing or gaining any more strength so i've been advised to consider my routine/diet. Have just recently altered my diet getting alot less fat intake now and work differnt muscle groups everytime i go to the gym which i was informed seems to be the next stage. Only just stared the last week, is working me alot harder :smoke: .

Here's my diet/ routine-

Routine:
Day 1 (monday): Chest, arms and abs.
Day 2 (wednesday): Legs and abs.
Day 3 (friday): Back, shoulders and abs.

Day 1- monday
Chest:
Bench press 4 X 10 reps
Incline bench press 4 X reps
Dumb Bell flyers 4 X 10 reps
Arms:
Standing cable curls 4 X 10 reps
Incline dumb bell curls 4 X 10 reps
Cable rope push downs 4 X 10 reps
Tricep kickbacks 4 X 10 reps
Abs:
Sit ups 4 X max
Leg raises 4 X max

Day 2- Wednesday
Legs:
Squats 4 X 10 reps
Leg extension 4 X 10 reps
Leg curls 4 X 10 reps
Abs:
Sit ups 4 X max
Leg raises 4 max

Day 3- Friday
Back:
Wide grip pull downs 4 X 10 reps
One arm dumb bell rows 4 X 10 reps
Seated cable rows 4 X 10 reps
Shoulders:
Seated dumb bell press 4 X 10 reps
Lateral raise 4 X 10 reps
Bent over laterals 4 X 10 reps
Abs:
Sit ups 4 X max
Leg raises 4 max

*Also run for 10 mins each time before i start each day.

Diet:
Breakfast:
Larg bowl of porrage oats with chopped up bannana.
Lunch:
2 person serving of rice with tin of tuna or chicken breast.
Dinner:
Same as lunch.
Before bed:
Same as breakfast with 1 scoop of met rx protein shake.
-On days of exercise also have 1 scoop of met rx after exercise.


Does this seem a good routine/ diet. Also is it best to running before or after i start. Any help or advice apreciated.

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Paul.
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Old 08-09-2005, 02:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Youve stopped growing but reduced your fat intake? Maybe thats where you've went wrong. Personally i only do 9 work sets for larger bodyparts and 6 for smaller, plus id drop the rep range from 10 to 6-8.

Lastly i'd try and increase the diet a little, add in another meal and im sure you'll start to grow

A postworkout shake would also be a good start

It seems you've made the mistake most make(me included), which is to work harder in the gym instead of the dinner table which is what i think you should be doing
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Old 08-09-2005, 05:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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looking at your diet mate id say you need to eat alot more, id be suprised if you were getting anymore than a 100 grams of protein there. try to eat at least every 3 hours consuming quality protein and a carb/protein drink after training should be added along with some protein with your breakfast. regarding training id lower your reps to 6-8 especially on the compound movements and do a bit less volume sets wise. good luck mate it sounds like you have already made some good gains.
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increase ur food intake imo mate... try eating 4 meals then when u get use to that up it to 5 etc

try to get a nice amount of carbs protien and good fats in there,.....

dont worry too much about the ratios.. like 40/30/30 imo... just get the cleanish cals down ur neck as long as the meals have at least protien 30 grams and carbs 30-60 is a good start imo
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Breakfast:
Add some whey protein to your oats after they are cooked, two scoops, also add some butter there for fat. Dont worry about cholesterol.

Lunch
Not too bad but add a fat here like fish oils 3 of them.
That would be around 66 grams of carbs and 35 grams of protein.
Me personally, Id drop some of the carbs some, add more protein and the fat above, or even a teaspoon olive oil.

Dinner, same as above.
But, I do like the idea of a larger varity of foods consider fruits in the morning and vegetables in the afternoon.
Many vegetables have anti-cancer properties and also anti-estrogen properties.
Id eat at least one green vegetable a day like broccoli, green beans, spinish, asparagus, etc.

Routine seems fine to me.
But I like pullups over pulldowns.
Dips over pushdowns for triceps.
Strait bar curls over cable curls.

All depends if you are growing in strengh or size.
Seems a bit light on the cals tho.
If you are getting stronger then dont change a thing.
After you stop or hit a plateau then change your routine.
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Me personally, Id drop some of the carbs some, add more protein and the fat above, or even a teaspoon olive oil.
Do you mean put the olive oil in the food or actually take it straight?
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Routine seems fine to me.
But I like pullups over pulldowns.
Dips over pushdowns for triceps.
Strait bar curls over cable curls.

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Do you mean put the olive oil in the food or actually take it straight?
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Do you mean put the olive oil in the food or actually take it straight?
Well, you can do either, although I doubt many people can do that.
It needs to be taken with food.
Like some vinigar and olive oil on your salad.
Apple cider vinigar is actually good for you and good for weight loss.

Another thing, fat taken with a meal will slow down that meal and actually kindof lower the GI of that meal.
Also will slow down the absorpton of the protein in the meal allowing you to assimilate that protein in the meal better.

About the only meal that I would not add fat to would be my PWO shake.
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Anyway...Corned beef mash lovely...
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