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Old 24-08-2005, 05:39 PM   #16 (permalink)
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what part of the statement lifting more weight for longer produces more growth than lifting lighter for less time do you distrust or think untrue i must say i am dissapointed in you hackskii.i come on this board to give an opinion advice or help to some others gained through years of experience in the field if i can help i will because if i knew before what i know now it would have saved me time getting no where like the majority who give up with no success trying to pump up there muscles with high reps and light weight and then instead of positivity i experience extreme negativity and distrust from someone who i dont know and have never met a recommendation here and im sure one you abide by dont accuse someone of lying away from this board face to face without having any proof or it or difficulties will quickly arise in your life firstly angry but now ok as i realise what your saying positively is maxxx if you can bench over 360 weighing 164 that is verygood indeed although i will only be happy when i can lift over 400 i can only assume your lifting in the bench may need a little work if you follow the old school 3x6 reps you will get there mr weight phobic think positive as for taking steroids up untill now im natural but i would consider them in future as for the photo i dont have a digital unless you want to send me one thanks i have nothing to prove to you try to be alittle less negative in future all advice is not equal the duality of nature lets both try to help in our own styles
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Old 24-08-2005, 06:31 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I will repeat myself.
70% of your max will hit 90% of your fast twitch and slow twitch muscles.

You say less reps and higher weight will yield bigger muscles.
This is not true.
It might be true for you but not true for all.
Why do you have such a hard time accepting this fact?

Next for understanding purposes please break down your writing into smaller sentences and not run them into a long paragraph.
This will help too.

I have a tad bit of a problem with the style of your posts.
Some guys ask a question and then you toss in your max lifts.
This does nothing to help the guy you are posting too and just makes you look like you are bragging.
Not only bragging but exaggerated looking at that.

If you want to give advice then stick to the subject or question without tooting your horn.

Now you were saying that singles and doubles build better than 8-12 reps?
I think this is what you are saying from what I understand about your posts and I disagree with this.
Again, it might be true to you but not to everybody.

Again, I can prove to you that the heavier weights don’t necessarily build the bigger muscles through what I said about me and my brother (twins).
Not only that, I got injured trying to get my bench up high.
2 years later, I lost no size in my chest doing reps as to not further injure my shoulder.

I agree with you on the dips.
For the most part I agree with you about heavier weights.
But I disagree with anyone who preaches it has to be done this way or that way.

I didn’t like your comment that said all advice is not equal.
I took that as you were saying don’t listen to anyone else, you have the proper way, and this is the only way.

I know you have nothing to prove, neither do I but I still don’t believe you can do what you say you can at that weight.
Just my opinion.
Your advice is just that advice based on your opinion.
Mine too, that is all it is advice.

Oh, one more thing, I am not angry.
Just because I don’t believe you lift the weights you do does not make me angry.
If you did lift that much weight on those lifts you posted then I would have heard of you in some power lifting comp as you would be tops for your weight.
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Old 24-08-2005, 08:18 PM   #18 (permalink)
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yes and lifting more weight for longer produces more muscle growth than lifting lighter for less time
MMMMM got to disagree with this statement...

German scientists proved moons ago that the way to build muscle fastest was to do maximum amount of work in the shortest amount of time,the muscles really didnt respond as one would think to just using x amounts of lbs on a bar it was the overall stimulus that counted..ie intensity..but to a point...a muscle doesnt know how much is on the bar it just knows it having to work and will have to adapt...

So the quickest way to grow is short rest periods to not allow the muscles to recover too much between sets....which they do very very quickly...

Now this could also be taken to another level(which the russians et al did) by applying this type of methology by having their olympic athletes doing multiple short intense workouts anything upto 3-5x`s a day....(this is why I now doudt their use of dbol when they were supposed to have told american coaches that they used it;) )

As for using light weights to pump the muscle yes this does produce size but through a different mechanism than heavy weights......

Now the other factor for somebody either not gaining overall or weak bodypart could be neurological or they are training the wrong muscle fibres,that being most people assume/think that the body contains 2 types of muscle fibre when infact it contains 3 so by training to bring in the 3rd muscle fibre gains can be made....
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Now this could also be taken to another level(which the russians et al did) by applying this type of methology by having their olympic athletes doing multiple short intense workouts anything upto 3-5x`s a day....(this is why I now doudt their use of dbol when they were supposed to have told american coaches that they used it;) )

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Sorry cookie, been on the wine could you please make that clearer (the bold bit)
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Sorry cookie, been on the wine could you please make that clearer (the bold bit)
The reason the americans invented dbol was supposably down to a russian coach letting slip to an american coach that the russian weightlifters were using steroids,and thats why they were smashing all the records...

My feellings after reading so much of their training stuff is that it wasnt all that it seemed..yeah they may have been using drugs but I dont think it was the whole story,I think the ruskies told them about the drugs to throw them off the real scent..that being their amazing training principles/programes...the americans jumped on the drugs bandwagon and training/nutrition developments suffered dramatically for yrs to come and the russians kept breaking records...
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Old 25-08-2005, 01:03 AM   #21 (permalink)
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what im saying is that a stronger muscle is a bigger muscle the more weight i lift the bigger they have become. my arms and chest are bigger now than when i benched 200lbs. bigger still when i benched 350lbs what part of the equation do you not trust or understand.if you believe that a basic 360 bench is exagerated then it shows how mediocre your lifts must truly be and how you need to open your mind . there are women out there who can lift above that weight. now they may be chemically assisted but they can lift it never the less. as for men 700 lbs and above.as for heavyweight causing injury i think your own injury shows strictly good form is the only way to go because im sure lifting heavy wasnt the cause of the problem for you . i my self have yet to experience that.do not put incorrect words into my mouth id never say singles and doubles build more muscle than 8 reps thats highly imaginative but what they do help to achieve is a faster overall one rep strength increase over the shortest peroid of time no doubt thats up for dispute as well . the reason why my results look so good in your eyes as well as my brothers and two training partners as we all lift similar weights is that we have incorporated the more efficient strength tecniques of weightlifting and combined them with the slightly higher volume work of bodybuilding to induce more hypertrophy .i have nothing to prove to you at all. the reason ive posted here and ive never posted anywhere else before is that if for any reason anyone has been stagnating not achieving there goals and is disillusioned as many bodybuilders are each year then id suggest try this for month after month gains
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Old 25-08-2005, 06:41 AM   #22 (permalink)
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what im saying is that a stronger muscle is a bigger muscle the more weight i lift the bigger they have become. my arms and chest are bigger now than when i benched 200lbs. bigger still when i benched 350lbs what part of the equation do you not trust or understand.if you believe that a basic 360 bench is exagerated then it shows how mediocre your lifts must truly be and how you need to open your mind . there are women out there who can lift above that weight. now they may be chemically assisted but they can lift it never the less. as for men 700 lbs and above.as for heavyweight causing injury i think your own injury shows strictly good form is the only way to go because im sure lifting heavy wasnt the cause of the problem for you . i my self have yet to experience that.do not put incorrect words into my mouth id never say singles and doubles build more muscle than 8 reps thats highly imaginative but what they do help to achieve is a faster overall one rep strength increase over the shortest peroid of time no doubt thats up for dispute as well . the reason why my results look so good in your eyes as well as my brothers and two training partners as we all lift similar weights is that we have incorporated the more efficient strength tecniques of weightlifting and combined them with the slightly higher volume work of bodybuilding to induce more hypertrophy .i have nothing to prove to you at all. the reason ive posted here and ive never posted anywhere else before is that if for any reason anyone has been stagnating not achieving there goals and is disillusioned as many bodybuilders are each year then id suggest try this for month after month gains
Are you talking to me or hackski?????

As your writting style and punctuation is hard to follow and making reading and answering rather difficult...
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Old 25-08-2005, 04:42 PM   #23 (permalink)
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high iq get it checked one smart cookie.hackskii of course.your like a typical bber what one does they all do.think out side the box try it some time instead of following up behind other people .when a negative entity says they cant believe that someone whos natural can lift just 360lbs like its the equal of climbing mount everest i can only assume a couple of things.he cant and never will.he doubts it because if he were giving out his stats he would always exagerate and so believes every one else must be doing so to. well heres some news when i hoist that 400 you will be one of the first to know all about it in detail .face to face make sure you pick your targets wisely in life very wisely. maybe this is thinking a little too far outside of the box for some but ill repeat .by blending the single and double reps of weight lifting alongside bodybuilding training its possible to move above the stagnant stench of mediocrity and negativity even with average genetics .obviously anyone who has a serious injury will have seriously compromised any future developement to a large degree but should not let this externalise into a negative attitude towards others so one must always observe strict form.if your experiencing very little gains try this a long side static contraction for real results
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The reason the americans invented dbol was supposably down to a russian coach letting slip to an american coach that the russian weightlifters were using steroids,and thats why they were smashing all the records...

My feellings after reading so much of their training stuff is that it wasnt all that it seemed..yeah they may have been using drugs but I dont think it was the whole story,I think the ruskies told them about the drugs to throw them off the real scent..that being their amazing training principles/programes...the americans jumped on the drugs bandwagon and training/nutrition developments suffered dramatically for yrs to come and the russians kept breaking records...

Cool, thanks for clearing that up, still on the wine but atleast i understand now
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high iq get it checked one smart cookie.
Now I understand where you got that neg rep from.

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hackskii of course.your like a typical bber
You're* for someone urging others to get an IQ test, you don't seem too bright yourself. Heard the expression about people in glass houses?

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what one does they all do.think out side the box try it some time instead of following up behind other people .
Rather a broad generalisation to make. Especially about someone like Hack, who has offered many of us masses of information, as regards to yourself. Look around the board, lots of people following lots of different routines, exercises, diets, training splits etc. How do we all follow each other exactly?

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well heres some news when i hoist that 400 you will be one of the first to know all about it in detail .face to face
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make sure you pick your targets wisely in life very wisely. maybe this is thinking a little too far outside of the box for some but ill repeat .by blending the single and double reps of weight lifting alongside bodybuilding training its possible to move above the stagnant stench of mediocrity and negativity even with average genetics .obviously anyone who has a serious injury will have seriously compromised any future developement to a large degree but should not let this externalise into a negative attitude towards others so one must always observe strict form.if your experiencing very little gains try this a long side static contraction for real results
Aside from more incorrect grammar and spelling, you appear to be talking out of your backside here.

Is it just me, or does this guy remind anyone else of Vernon?
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Wasnt from me if it had been I would have put my name to it..

Verve I deleted my post(above yours)because I realised he wasnt worth the agro/negativity and all of his quotes he got from my signature
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very much so....And somebody else on the board acts a lot like roid devil???

What is up with this board this week and newbies posting up lots of agro?????

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