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Old 11-07-2005, 04:18 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Power cleans almost work the whole body.

If you do clean and jerks, you are hitting almost everything but chest.

Bench, deads, pullups, squant, military (standing), dips, etc
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Old 12-07-2005, 12:16 AM   #17 (permalink)
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yep as hacks said..
bench press
military press
chin ups
dips
cleans
deadlifts
squats
barbell rows

i think u need to have squats and deads personally the most
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Old 12-07-2005, 12:20 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I apoligise if I got it wrong mate, no offence intended.

IMO diet is the key, if your diet is right you will gain. Are you a vegeterian? I wasn't sure from your post, but if you are there are vegeterians on here who will be able to give you tips on that. I think mcronix is/was vegeterian and just posted up a diet.
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Old 12-07-2005, 01:15 AM   #19 (permalink)
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no............thank God i eat Animals

u guys got any quick ideas for shakes? (ones that i can pack and take to school and wont get spiled quick bcuz the shake'll be in my backpack.)
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This question is for BIG.....i read your sig How to Grow

well my question is what's dual factor training (never heard of it) and could you give me a sample workout w/dual factor training (perferabley your training regimen)?
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:16 AM   #21 (permalink)
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This question is for BIG.....i read your sig How to Grow

well my question is what's dual factor training (never heard of it) and could you give me a sample workout w/dual factor training (perferabley your training regimen)?
Bump for big, yes do tell us about the dual factor!
Is this Vern?
Look, there is no magic bullet. If you cant gain weight then add more calories. Try to eat between 30-50 grams of protein a meal. The rest is up to you! Your routine look ok. It doesn't seem like you are over training, you are getting enough sleep.
You need more calories. Dont get consumed by gaining weight.
The best builds I have ever seen are guys that could not gain weight.
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:43 AM   #22 (permalink)
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well my question is what's dual factor training (never heard of it) and could you give me a sample workout w/dual factor training (perferabley your training regimen)?
Take a read:
http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/...rtraining.html

The squat routine in that link is an excellent example of dual factor training. But you'd best know your body well, learn about when you start to overtrain, and be able to deadlift at least twice your bodyweight before needing a routine like that.
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Old 12-07-2005, 12:05 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Just to touch on a point earlier where xylyx stated that prisoners are massive etc and have great bodies.


Some of them probably do have good physiques due to the fact they are allowed protein supplements, fat burners etc in prison. But they certainly would be taking more than 60g of protein per day!
Maybe not all the top security prisons allow supplements in but the rest are ok with it.

They train when they want, probably most days as nothing else to do. Get enough rest and eat well.

It would be a different subject if you were talking about a terrible prison such as a Korean one............now they are tough places I bet!!!
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a very good friend of mine has jus got out of prison.... he had 4 meals a day..fish and chips on fri nites... fry up sat&sun mornings full decent meals and allowed seconds on everything...

i asked if it tasted like cack he said it wasnt bad at all and he is a chef..

so i can bet u he was eating moe protien locked up than he was in the real world
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Basic compound exercises and food and sleep.
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