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Old 14-04-2005, 10:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello all,

Very new to this whole scene, so was hoping for some guidence, from you experienced folk.

I'm 20 and have just taken up martial arts again but want to take it more seriously this time around. I'm 6ft and am very light at 12st, also have a bit of a flabby torso, but very skinny limbs. Random weight distribution I know, lol. Dispite this im quite cardiovascular y fit, try to run about 4 miles every other day, with plenty of sports during the week (Squash, Tennis, Cycling). I think what lets me down is my diet :(

I have some gym experience (i.e i've been before a few times) but never with any guidance so just did bits and pieces.

I'm looking for a routine that builds strength with a side effect of bulk (rather than the other way round). I also want to tone up my mid section, and get rid of my little belly .

Diet wise, I can't really do this 6 times a day deal, so recommendations for meals at 3 times a day would be great. (what about supplements etc)?

Could visit the gym up to 4 times a week, for about 1.5hr sessions ideally.

Sorry for the long post, has anyone got any ideas ?

Thanks for any advice
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Old 14-04-2005, 10:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 14-04-2005, 10:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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hello mate .

You will find lots of help on this board, try http://www.regimenx.com/ for a great, proven eating, training/suppliment plan!


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Old 14-04-2005, 11:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I for sure would incourperate some weigh/restance training here.
Restance training is awesome for losing weight and changing where the size on the body goes.

Bacic compound exercise would be my first place I would start.
Second would be to look around in the diet forum and get some ideas on your diet.

Or you can post you diet up here and we can have a look at it for some constructive criticism.

you will get there but it takes one step at a time and the first step is your first post..


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Old 14-04-2005, 11:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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well I'm a student so my diet is awful, and is subject to complete change. As for weight/resistance/compound i'll have a look around for that.

But as far as diet goes, I'm looking for some sort of list of meals, that are recommended. Or combinations/anything really lol.

Cheers for the welcome
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Old 14-04-2005, 11:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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right geezer first off welcome!!

Hackskii mentioned compounds......
bench press
military press
Squats
Deadlift

They are the main 4 lift u can build a monster body just from doin those lift imo..they are called compound as they involve many muscles for each one.... start of on these then slide in isolation exercises once u get more clued up in the gym....

post ur diet up and we'll see what we can do mate...

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OK well you asked for it ;) This is a typical week (by no means the best or worst)

I've tried to be as honest as possible, as theres no point in cheating myself.

Sunday
Breakfast – Porridge + Glass of juice
Lunch – usually a sandwich
Dinner – Typical Sunday roast

Monday
Breakfast – Porridge + Glass of juice
Lunch – 2 poached eggs on 2 pieces of toast
Dinner – Chicken curry (home made, from fresh meat (butchers))

Tuesday
Breakfast – Porridge + Glass of juice
Lunch – Grilled bacon sandwich
Dinner – 8oz Rump steak + chips + peas (from the pub)

Wednesday
Breakfast – Porridge + Glass of juice
Lunch – 2 poached eggs on 2 pieces of toast
Dinner – Pork chop from butchers with baked potato and veggies

Thursday
Breakfast – Porridge + Glass of juice
Lunch – Sandwich of some variety from the shop
Dinner – spaghetti bolognaise

Friday
Breakfast – Porridge + Glass of juice
Lunch – 2 poached eggs on 2 pieces of toast
Dinner – Chicken pie (Iceland jobby) + veggies + baked potato

Saturday
Breakfast – Porridge + Glass of juice
Lunch – Baked beans on toast, 3 slices
Dinner – A pizza of some variety

I drink lots of water thoughout the day, and occasionaly eat the odd bit of fruit here and there.

What you think ?
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Old 15-04-2005, 07:30 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Breakfast – Porridge + Glass of juice
Add a protein here and a good fat

Lunch – usually a sandwich
Make sure there is enough protein in this sandwich and add a good fat

Dinner – Typical Sunday roast
This is ok if it is vegetables and some protein in the roast.

You need to eat a protein with each of these meals (all meals).
Couple of caps of fish oils would be a good idea with the meals as well.
Avacado on that sandwich would be ok.
Nuts to snack on.

Lets look at Saturday as an example:
Saturday
Breakfast – Porridge + Glass of juice
Lunch – Baked beans on toast, 3 slices
Dinner – A pizza of some variety

Breakfast has very little protein in it.
Lunch has some protein but mostly carbs and some fiber, very little protein in this too.
Dinner is mostly carbs and fats with a little protein in it.

Toss some whey protein in your oats.
Eat a chicken breast and drop a piece of bread for that lunch.
Dinner, eat some meat with that pizza or just load it up with meatballs.
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Old 15-04-2005, 08:04 PM   #9 (permalink)
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yeah defo I know its bad. I'm looking for sorting it completely. Now I'm finishing uni I have more time to organise proper meals etc.

A complete overhaul wouldn't be going to far IMO.

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OK well you asked for it ;) This is a typical week (by no means the best or worst)

I've tried to be as honest as possible, as theres no point in cheating myself.

Sunday
Breakfast – Porridge + Glass of juice
Lunch – usually a sandwich
Dinner – Typical Sunday roast

Monday
Breakfast – Porridge + Glass of juice
Lunch – 2 poached eggs on 2 pieces of toast
Dinner – Chicken curry (home made, from fresh meat (butchers))

Tuesday
Breakfast – Porridge + Glass of juice
Lunch – Grilled bacon sandwich
Dinner – 8oz Rump steak + chips + peas (from the pub)

Wednesday
Breakfast – Porridge + Glass of juice
Lunch – 2 poached eggs on 2 pieces of toast
Dinner – Pork chop from butchers with baked potato and veggies

Thursday
Breakfast – Porridge + Glass of juice
Lunch – Sandwich of some variety from the shop
Dinner – spaghetti bolognaise

Friday
Breakfast – Porridge + Glass of juice
Lunch – 2 poached eggs on 2 pieces of toast
Dinner – Chicken pie (Iceland jobby) + veggies + baked potato

Saturday
Breakfast – Porridge + Glass of juice
Lunch – Baked beans on toast, 3 slices
Dinner – A pizza of some variety

I drink lots of water thoughout the day, and occasionaly eat the odd bit of fruit here and there.

What you think ?
HELLO LOOKED AT SOME OF YOUR DIET,ITS OK GETTING ADVICE,THE Q I NEED TO NO IS YOUR WEIGHT,R U SKINNY/FAT,MUSCLUAR,THEN WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO START SOME WHERE, JASON WICKER IFBB PRO,
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I'm 6ft and am very light at 12st, also have a bit of a flabby torso, but very skinny limbs. Random weight distribution I know, lol
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WELCOME!!!! You have certainly come to the right place for advise....these guys know thier stuff...as for me?? Well i dont really know what i am here for!! LOL
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