T.F.

Fcuk it, i start my cycle in August, i'll do 3/4 weeks of cardio 5 times a week in the morning and see how i react, then hopefully after that the drugs will do the rest for me

The amount of conflicting info out there in relation to this game is unreal

jw007

Look

Lets get this straight...

That gay sh1t BBders call cardio is bollox..

60% treadmill to reach target heart rate for fat loss..

Sure "proper cardio" ie sparring, cross country cycling or sprint interval training, even footy has real world benefit and gives a real cardiovasular and health benefit I 100% concur

Fat fcks putting no effort in stepping on a tread mill for 30mins....DO ME A FAVOUR

liamhutch

Ahhh so we are actually in the same ball park then. For my cardio i'll either do sparring, skipping or rowing (trying to beat last time) usually and this bennefits me greatly.

jw007

yes mate, but thats what most fat fcks on here are not refering to when thay say "ohhh i did an hour cardio"

All4n

High intensity is the way to go as it's very good at

A. Boosting metabolism
B. Increasing insulin sensitivity
C. Increasing fitness

All important factors for gaining or dropping BF%. Does a much better job than low intensity cardio but can still have its place depending on the invidual and their cirumstances.

hackskii

Everyone is a broad brush stroke.
Based on body types, drugs, age, lifestyle, hormonal levles, work requriements, diet, sleep paterns, motivation, mental health, all play a factor.
For one to say cardio is best for fat loss is totally mistaken.
It may fit for those that it fits for, but in many cases, it does not.

I will be clear here in saying, if one has diet under control, cardio is secondary.

After all, lets look at this logically, if your stuffing your face got yourself into the overweight situation, then cardio wont get you out of it, but I bet my left nut, diet will.
Regardless of exercise.
If you dont fix the stuffing of your face, exercies is not the fix, stop stuffing your face is the fix.

This is so basic it isnt funny.
Think of it as a math equation.

Sorry for all the cardio buffs, but I have seen many try to burn on cardio what their weakness of diet wont let them do.

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Scott

Irish Beast

I do it now and again. Does that make me gay friendly?

I've only been doing it recently cos my BF is high but I could quite happily never do it again.

d4ead

As the boards resident fat fuker i can honestly say i found no benefit to cardio at all. All i can say is that it made me miserable and bored on the days i had to do it.
I guess i did feel a little fitter.

liamhutch

I agree with what you are saying now, mostly. Before i started training i was slim but never lean and used to be into bike riding so would be exercising 5+ hours every day but my diet was terrible so i never got lean!

most people here will have a good or at least acceptable diet and so cardio will be of bennefit to them. The article you posted suggested cardio is of no benefit.

I do think 60% heart rate cardio or whatever it is, is rather pointless personally. The same health benefits are not there, not as many calories are being burned, its is boring and no muscle should be lost doing fast cardio if diet supports it.

SOUTHMAN

I was on a keto diet and doing the low intensity cardio for long duration, lost weight for sure but felt like rubbish and couldnt function properly and for that matter spent alot of my free time bored on the bike!

I am now on a balanced diet eating carbs from low gi sources, Moderate protien (using carbs as my main energy source) and healthy fats. as little sugar as possible.

Im doing high intensity cardio but GPP style, often this involves using weights (farmers walks, kettlebell drills, bodyweight drills ect) and doing boxing, fast skipping and bouts of 1000 meters on the rower. I train has HARD as i can pushing myself to new levels be it quicker, heaver whetever getting out of breath for a short period.

In conclusion im in the best shape ive been in for a while and feel the fittest ive been, infact many have said my arms look bigger even though ive lost fat.

For me It all diet and maxiumum work in a short period.

chilisi

id stick to what cardio your doing and add in some hard interval training in the mornings...maybe something like punch bag work or interval running.short and sharp..

you can try the cardio method and see if it works for you...if your losing fat an no muscle then great , but if you feel its having negative effects on your muscle growth then cut back..

LittleChris

To be honest, if I could drive to the gym and back I wouldn't be doign any

Joshua

One of the problems with high duration, low intencity (where intensity measured by heart rate) cardio is that whilst it may preferentially burn more fat compared to other fuels, the amount it burns, very strongly relates to the person's cardiovascular fitness. If a person is unfit, their work rate at their 50%VO2max maybe very low, therefore their energy expenditure they burn at that rate will be low, thus fat loss will be minimal. In this case, I believe that the unfit person would be better served by working at an exercise rate at or above their lactate threshold, to improve their cardiovascular fitness, so that when they do train at 50%VO2max they are shifting the lard.

I agree totally with your sentiments with obese people walking slowly on treadmills though. I have seen a few in my gym who crank the gradient up high, use a slow walking pace, whilst resting their bodyweight on the frame. These people would be better served in doing anything and everything to get their total energy expenditure up.

Agreed.

High duration cardio can lead to smaller skeletal muscle (fibre types), but I disagree with the rest of this. If you look at the amount of blood that trained rowers shift around their body per pump of the heart, it is enormous compared to the untrained person in the population. I have never seen any evidence that high duration cardio leads to smaller lungs.

HIIT / Interval style training has a good track record of improving health including heart disease, and as I mentioned in another thread it has widespread metabolic effects (Insulin sensitivity). Interval work should be a part of healthy living IMHO.

Jim Fixx led an unhealthy life prior to him taking up jogging from what I gather. I imagine that it was not the jogging that was responsible for his arteries furring up.

J

BigDom86

i just do 20mins light cardio twice a week. seems ok to me

recc

could someone give an example for running that would be better for fat burning than steady cardio then?
I started doing morning cardio of a 45 min walk everyday but a lot of you now say this isnt a great idea.

I started cutting to lose the fat, do weights every other day and have my diet under control, so got these bases covered but want to increase the speed of fat loss. Want to get back on a bulk!