Which is beta 4 growth? - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

P1DGE · 28-03-2005, 05:41 PM

which is beta 4 gtin bigga usin heavey wights n pushin uself 2 the limits or trainin slow on leight weights n gt a full total pump up?

**big** · 28-03-2005, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by P1DGE

which is beta 4 gtin bigga usin heavey wights n pushin uself 2 the limits or trainin slow on leight weights n gt a full total pump up?

Hi mate

I have moved this to the training section as it's more appropriate here.

For getting bigger, IMO, heavy weights are vital. You must keep form totally strict, but you much also progressively add weight each session.

**hackskii** · 28-03-2005, 08:07 PM

I think the heavier weights are the way to go.
I think it builds a more mature muscle too, the ones that last longer with a layoff.

Pumps have their place especially during injuries but for the most part the heavier weights will be best.

samurai69 · 28-03-2005, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hackskii

I think the heavier weights are the way to go.
I think it builds a more mature muscle too, the ones that last longer with a layoff.

Pumps have their place especially during injuries but for the most part the heavier weights will be best.

This is semi relevent, what about training heavy first (HIT or just heavy working sets) then a pump set (increased blood flow) then fascial stretching, then another pump set (if necessary- not sure about this last set)

crazycacti · 28-03-2005, 08:55 PM

I personally always finish my bi's with a set of cable curls of about 15-20 reps purely to get the blood in there and because i like doing it also - i think for bi's, tri's, calves and traps - the higher rep training and going purely to get as much blood in there as possible is a handy shock weapon, however for larger muscle groups and main exercises for the other smaller groups - heavy weights are the way to go.....

overload = hypertrophy

**Jimmy** · 28-03-2005, 09:35 PM

I feel that a fairly fast (controled) movement is crucial for gaining as well

**big** · 28-03-2005, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy

I feel that a fairly fast (controled) movement is crucial for gaining as well

Do you mean the positive only, or do you mean the negative too?

**Jimmy** · 28-03-2005, 11:12 PM

mainly the posotive.......

..........but i feel too many people perform the negative far too slowly

Moving a heavy weight slowly is one thing.....it takes a strong man to move it quickly...controled of course

P1DGE · 28-03-2005, 11:14 PM

FanQ BIG am new ea so im still gtin da hang of it all fanQ 2 every1 else 4da info it elps alot i try 2push myself alot at da gym i am big n strng bt gtin a gud trainin partner is hrd cusa da weights am liftin they dnt like spotin me so i end up gtin other ppl in da gym aswell then i end up goin 2da gym alne cus trainin partners pack it in afta a cuple a mnth bt im still goin ntryin hrd 2gt da ultimate body lol

**hackskii** · 28-03-2005, 11:55 PM

70% of your max works 90% of all the slow and fast twitch muscles.
No brainer really, use enough weight to trigger growth.

I know some guys work the muscles fast but I think this can be a problem leaning twards injury.

28-03-2005, 05:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
P1DGE Newbie Trainer Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 11	Which is beta 4 growth? which is beta 4 gtin bigga usin heavey wights n pushin uself 2 the limits or trainin slow on leight weights n gt a full total pump up?

28-03-2005, 08:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 24,337	I think the heavier weights are the way to go. I think it builds a more mature muscle too, the ones that last longer with a layoff. Pumps have their place especially during injuries but for the most part the heavier weights will be best.

28-03-2005, 08:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
crazycacti Fat and bulking... Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Isle of Man/Newcastle Posts: 1,417	I personally always finish my bi's with a set of cable curls of about 15-20 reps purely to get the blood in there and because i like doing it also - i think for bi's, tri's, calves and traps - the higher rep training and going purely to get as much blood in there as possible is a handy shock weapon, however for larger muscle groups and main exercises for the other smaller groups - heavy weights are the way to go..... overload = hypertrophy

28-03-2005, 09:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jimmy UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Forest gym crawley Posts: 4,489	I feel that a fairly fast (controled) movement is crucial for gaining as well

28-03-2005, 11:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
Jimmy UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Forest gym crawley Posts: 4,489	mainly the posotive....... ..........but i feel too many people perform the negative far too slowly Moving a heavy weight slowly is one thing.....it takes a strong man to move it quickly...controled of course

28-03-2005, 11:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
P1DGE Newbie Trainer Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 11	FanQ BIG am new ea so im still gtin da hang of it all fanQ 2 every1 else 4da info it elps alot i try 2push myself alot at da gym i am big n strng bt gtin a gud trainin partner is hrd cusa da weights am liftin they dnt like spotin me so i end up gtin other ppl in da gym aswell then i end up goin 2da gym alne cus trainin partners pack it in afta a cuple a mnth bt im still goin ntryin hrd 2gt da ultimate body lol

28-03-2005, 11:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 24,337	70% of your max works 90% of all the slow and fast twitch muscles. No brainer really, use enough weight to trigger growth. I know some guys work the muscles fast but I think this can be a problem leaning twards injury.