Can you build good legs without squat? - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

Wheyhey · 14-08-2008, 07:32 PM

Hi, i was wondering whether you can build decent legs just by using leg extension, hamstring curls, deadlifts, SLDL?
I know squats are the daddy of lifts but i just cant get em right, thinking of just giving up and training the isolations instead.

Thanks

LloydOfGrimsby · 14-08-2008, 07:37 PM

You're going to give up the daddy of all exercises (period.) just because you can't achieve good form?

Dude .......

LloydOfGrimsby · 14-08-2008, 07:39 PM

Just try using the bar at first and progressively add the weight to it.

Or use a smith machine, unless youre already doing this...?

joeyh1485 · 14-08-2008, 07:41 PM

as said above mate
keep going until your form is spot on use just the bar if you have to

roc-star · 14-08-2008, 07:51 PM

I wouldnt give up mate, they are awesome for putting some size on and hit a range of muscles that it would take you a dozen exercises to isolate individually

Ask someone to spot you in the gym, I did and my form improved and now I can squat a fair amount and have noticed some good gains in only a few months of 'proper' squating.

Get your form nailed on first then stick a few plates on...

Wheyhey · 14-08-2008, 07:57 PM

Alright thanks for the comments, i think it definately is a combo of poor form and just weakness, i tend to start bending my back too much towards the end of my sets, almost like a good morning lol, not quite that extreme but you get the idea of what im doing wrong.

Wheyhey · 14-08-2008, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LloydOfGrimsby

Just try using the bar at first and progressively add the weight to it.

Or use a smith machine, unless youre already doing this...?

No not using the smith machine.

miles2345 · 14-08-2008, 07:59 PM

winners dont quit.............quitters dont win

Wheyhey · 14-08-2008, 08:02 PM

Its not that really, i was wondering whether there was just a way around it. Training to build muscle, not too fussed about strength.

joeyh1485 · 14-08-2008, 08:06 PM

why don't you just drop the weight down when your form starts to get slopy

BigDom86 · 14-08-2008, 08:10 PM

try looking slightly up when your squatting to keep your back straight and stop you leaning forward. believe me squats are hard, and yes you can build good legs without, i have been training 4-5 years and only incorporated squats properly a few months back, it makes a hell of a differenc tho mate

paulo · 14-08-2008, 08:18 PM

google squat rx its a series of short videos on squats,good advice on form depth etc-wish that was available when i started,learn to squat properly,be patient and not upping weight too quick and you will grow big legs guaranteed with the squat,once you get in to it its great,i miss it big time but due to back probs caused by bad form in early days cant do.
get squating

Wheyhey · 14-08-2008, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeyh1485

why don't you just drop the weight down when your form starts to get slopy

I'll give this a whirl, i think dropping weight on the whole is a good idea until i get form nailed, then with good form i should be able to up weight quite quickly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDom86

try looking slightly up when your squatting to keep your back straight and stop you leaning forward. believe me squats are hard, and yes you can build good legs without, i have been training 4-5 years and only incorporated squats properly a few months back, it makes a hell of a differenc tho mate

Thanks for the tip, i guess squats must be the hardest lift to master, i havent had any problems with the other compounds, deadlift is one of my favs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulo

google squat rx its a series of short videos on squats,good advice on form depth etc-wish that was available when i started,learn to squat properly,be patient and not upping weight too quick and you will grow big legs guaranteed with the squat,once you get in to it its great,i miss it big time but due to back probs caused by bad form in early days cant do.
get squating

Thanks i'll google it now.

Wheyhey · 14-08-2008, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulo

google squat rx its a series of short videos on squats,good advice on form depth etc-wish that was available when i started,learn to squat properly,be patient and not upping weight too quick and you will grow big legs guaranteed with the squat,once you get in to it its great,i miss it big time but due to back probs caused by bad form in early days cant do.
get squating

Yeh ive seen them before thru youtube, they are good instruction, im going to watch them before leg day then go work on it, looks like my squat depth isnt great too by the looks of that vid.

Was just watching this, front squat i know but pretty awesome form and strength for his size.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkK9-mnDAy4

BigDom86 · 14-08-2008, 08:37 PM

hack squat? lunges? squat with dumbells?

14-08-2008, 07:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
Wheyhey Newbie Trainer Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 19	Can you build good legs without squat? Hi, i was wondering whether you can build decent legs just by using leg extension, hamstring curls, deadlifts, SLDL? I know squats are the daddy of lifts but i just cant get em right, thinking of just giving up and training the isolations instead. Thanks

14-08-2008, 07:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
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LloydOfGrimsby Chasing the pounds... Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Grimsby Posts: 403 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Can you build good legs without squat? Just try using the bar at first and progressively add the weight to it. Or use a smith machine, unless youre already doing this...? __________________ My Journal Moscos for PM!

14-08-2008, 07:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
joeyh1485 Looking Freaky Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 561	Re: Can you build good legs without squat? as said above mate keep going until your form is spot on use just the bar if you have to

14-08-2008, 07:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
roc-star What Doesnt Kill Me / Makes Me Stronger Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Co. Durham Posts: 161	Re: Can you build good legs without squat? I wouldnt give up mate, they are awesome for putting some size on and hit a range of muscles that it would take you a dozen exercises to isolate individually Ask someone to spot you in the gym, I did and my form improved and now I can squat a fair amount and have noticed some good gains in only a few months of 'proper' squating. Get your form nailed on first then stick a few plates on...

14-08-2008, 07:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
Wheyhey Newbie Trainer Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 19	Re: Can you build good legs without squat? Alright thanks for the comments, i think it definately is a combo of poor form and just weakness, i tend to start bending my back too much towards the end of my sets, almost like a good morning lol, not quite that extreme but you get the idea of what im doing wrong.

14-08-2008, 07:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
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Wheyhey Newbie Trainer Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 19	Re: Can you build good legs without squat? Its not that really, i was wondering whether there was just a way around it. Training to build muscle, not too fussed about strength.

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BigDom86 natural Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 547	Re: Can you build good legs without squat? try looking slightly up when your squatting to keep your back straight and stop you leaning forward. believe me squats are hard, and yes you can build good legs without, i have been training 4-5 years and only incorporated squats properly a few months back, it makes a hell of a differenc tho mate

14-08-2008, 08:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
paulo Getting HUGE! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: north Posts: 1,034	Re: Can you build good legs without squat? google squat rx its a series of short videos on squats,good advice on form depth etc-wish that was available when i started,learn to squat properly,be patient and not upping weight too quick and you will grow big legs guaranteed with the squat,once you get in to it its great,i miss it big time but due to back probs caused by bad form in early days cant do. get squating

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