lew86

Hi guys,

Through starting my training, would you say concentrating on upper body and neglecting leg workouts for a while is a stupid idea? I would balance both throughout a weeks training but I am really self concious about my torso and arms so want to have a good visable improvement before I dedicate more time to training legs.

Cheers peeps

Mrdaveyk

a decision i feel you may regret

i did it and it looks silly mate

you dont want arms bigger than your legs

dont ignore the legs mate, get a good routine going involving every muscle group

warren_1987

training your legs will help increase the upper body too, something to do with the ammount of testostrone produced as your leg muscles are so big.

pentle

Would say i have to agree with Mrdaveyk.

I see guys at my gym with massive upper bodys and small legs......they look like they are standing on twiglets!

A good routine should hit every muscle group with intense basic compound exercises.

lew86

thanks for the input guys. I'll definatly not keep them out of mind. Simply something like:

day 1: shoulders/ arms
day 2: arms/ chest
Day 3: Chest/ Waist/Abs
Day 4 Waist/ Back/ Legs

and if I managed to get up day 5

LEGS!

Think that would be ok for a rough guideline?

Thanks again guys

irwit

that training routine looks awful !!!

Whats waist, back and legs ???

LloydOfGrimsby

Waist = obliques? if so traning the abs will also help the obliques...


As for the routine, looks shabby imo...

Try the basic compound movements such as:

Deadlifts
Squats ect ....


Squats massively increase the production of HGH (human growth horemone) co$mpared to any other exercise. Someone please correct me if i'm terribly uninformed.

However if your diet is correct, the gains will come. Even with your poor routine, just not as much if you concentrate on the legs more.

Deadlifts and squats bring on muscle all round! Bar far the most underrated exercises throughout the world amongst men's health readers (me being one of them)

Ive personally started doing squats about 2 months ago, and deadlifts about a few weeks.... so far ive put on half a stone without adding any body fat, so it MUST be working.

Plus the ladies love a tight @rse


Hope this helped you somewhat, kind regards,

Lloyd.

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lew86

No cheers mate, thats a great help, I know the routine is trash and just was an example but as you know Im new to the boards and new to proper training. Is there any 4-5 day routine for an all over body workout that anyone would suggest? Cause I still havent got a proper weekly routine

Cheers guys

Mrdaveyk

trust me mate if you eat properly you dont need to pound the arms

stimulating them once a week is fine

day 1 - shoulders
day 2 - Chest/triceps
day 3 - Legs
day 4 - Back/biceps

thats my routine mate, there loads others but this worked great for me

wants big arms train those triceps they make two thirds of the arm, biceps are tiny compared to them

use about 3/4 techniques per muscle group

use no more than ten reps and lift to the max

squats/deadlifts/bench press

deadlifts will make you abs grow mate, do your ab work any day you want AFTER you've done the essentials that are listed, i never do ab work and deadlifts keep mine in form, same as front squats, after a legs day doing front squats my abs are very tense the next day

waist, as mentioned im guessing you obliques..... deadlifts again as my obliques popped out of my pants when i started doing deads i swear lol or leg lifts AFTER you essential work on any day are good for hitting the lower abdominal area

just remember though abs are tendons not muscles, abs dont grow (i think lol), they only appear to be bigger when you lower your body fat

eat big lift heavy and yourll get your goals

lew86

Cheers mate, thats a great help that is, I'll start that and let you know how I get on. Do you do deadlift and squats daily after the essensials or just keep them to one day?

Thanks again bud, thats a big help that is

Mrdaveyk

keep the to the associated muscle groups

deadlift - back
squats - legs
bench - chest

lew86

Cool, didnt know if deadlift would come under legs or back as to be honest like a thread I just read by GS- Ive gotta admit I've also never done deadlifts . Can I be a cheeky B****** then and ask what exercises you would usually do on the routine you said.

day 1: shoulders/ arms
day 2: arms/ chest
Day 3: Chest/ Waist/Abs
Day 4 Waist/ Back/ Legs

Didnt want to ask but if Ive got something set out to follow then I can adapt the routine at a later stage once the origional has been nailed

leeston

if you say energy is an issue then look at a three day routine taking a days rest in between. ie:

mon - chest, ,bis and tris
tues - rest
wed - legs
thur - rest
fri - shoulders, back

mate - neglecting legs is the most serious thing I think you can do. There is no reason to exclude legs at all. they ellicit the most GH and hit a great more muscle than you realise. I would drop abs at this stage as they get hit anyway.

a good trainer is a clever trainer!!!!

lew86

This does look like a good routine and i really appriciate it,but I'm definatly trying to hit it at least four times a week and possibly 5 in circumstances and rest during the weekend. I could try and impliment this if i'm feelin especially fragile one week. Cheers bud!

leeston

hi mate. is there any reason why you want 4 or 5 days a week? More is not necersarily better you know. It is quality and not quantity.

If you want to concentrate on upper body and are looking at a 4 or 5 day routine then what did you have in mind?

If you want more than a three day plan then why dont you spilt shoulders and back and train them on seperate days. There no reason to hit each body part more than once a week.