Cycling for fat loss - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

thomasjury · 28-07-2008, 02:03 PM

Hi, I've been a member for a long time and read most of the posts but this is the 1st time I've written anything.

I'm currently happy with my size but am looking to lose fat to increase definition. Until now I've been cycling a 10 mile circuit I made up around my area of London, I do that 4 times a week and it usually takes 50 minutes to complete.

Based on what I've read on this forum I've been doing it on an empty stomach when I wake up but after speaking to a friend who has been training alot longer than me and knows alot more I'm worried I shouldn't be doing this, he said "eat first for weight loss and weight gain. you cannot burn enough fat on an empty stomach, it doesn't work like that. you have to eat to have energy to burn fat. you can't just not eat and run or the weight you lose will come back. have oats first thing then cycle and then protein shake and a banana"

He also said to always take a banana for after your workout as well as it will be used as quick energy and it will also create an insulin spike and make the protein assimilation more effective.

Sounds logical, what do you guys think? Thanks for any help

BigMatt1985 · 05-08-2008, 01:34 PM

I cannot comment on this because I lack the knowledge but I hope someone will as I train the same - cycle first thing 10k on an empty stomach

Please could someone give advice, would be interesting to see what is the correct way to go about this.

diaita · 05-08-2008, 01:42 PM

Its a mine field of methods and therorys,
calorie deficeit/expenditure is the main stay behind most of them

BigMatt1985 · 05-08-2008, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diaita

Its a mine field of methods and therorys,
calorie deficeit/expenditure is the main stay behind most of them

I am trying to break my training down into small goals - I cycle on an empty stomach to try and lose bf% as I want a 6 pack

Do you think just cycling 10 K every morning with 1 ab workout a week will do this?

diaita · 05-08-2008, 02:47 PM

[quote=BigMatt1985;506961]I am trying to break my training down into small goals - I cycle on an empty stomach to try and lose bf% as I want a 6 pack

Do you think just cycling 10 K every morning with 1 ab workout a week will do this?[/q
Start a new post with
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If there is no deficiet/expenditure in cals then no, its down to diet in most cases.

BigMatt1985 · 05-08-2008, 04:11 PM

[quote=diaita;506994]

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMatt1985

I am trying to break my training down into small goals - I cycle on an empty stomach to try and lose bf% as I want a 6 pack

Do you think just cycling 10 K every morning with 1 ab workout a week will do this?[/q
Start a new post with
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Current Diet
Goals
Current exercise,
If there is no deficiet/expenditure in cals then no, its down to diet in most cases.

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irwit · 05-08-2008, 04:28 PM

lol no shame there is stealing someone elses thread ...

irwit · 05-08-2008, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomasjury

He also said to always take a banana for after your workout as well as it will be used as quick energy and it will also create an insulin spike and make the protein assimilation more effective.

But if you are after fat loss you shouldnt be eating for protein assimiattion (not really sure if thats right anyway) and you should definately be avoid insulin spikes. Insulin promotes fat storage.

Im not saying what your friend said is wrong, but thats more for muscle gain, not for fat loss. I can also understand yes you need energy to burn fat but its not like you are waking up with a completely empty tank is it or you wouldnt be waking up at all.

Personally i'd have some whey protein in water before the race and after. Then continue with a normal fat burning diet for the rest of teh day.

andyboro · 05-08-2008, 04:39 PM

IMO, these things are all a bit of a nothingness..

personally, i cycle twice a day for the same reasons but never fasted anymore - doing anything major in that was tends to send me a bit hypo so its just not worth it.

obviously, this depends on what condition you're in now (as in doesnt really apply if your already lean) but basically, as long as you're in a calorie deficit then the rest is a bit irrelevant.

all just IMO of course

thomasjury · 06-08-2008, 12:46 AM

Thanks for the replies guys. I think I'll have some whey with water before I go cycling because at least that could be used for energy and wont add fat.

I try not to get too concerned with all these things because I've only been training for 10 months and know that I just need to keep doing the basics (as i've found from reading the forum and alot of posts from LostSoul). I just like to know I'm not making any big mistakes. Thanks again

7i7 · 06-08-2008, 11:41 PM

you should know using proteins as energy is a big waste.

thomasjury · 07-08-2008, 01:41 AM

7i7 do you think that I shouldnt have it before i go on my cycle ride? i meant that i was thinking of taking it before i went cycling because that would mean me having it 1st thing in the morining. I guess im just confused as to whether i should take protein before or after i go cycling in the morning

The Animal · 07-08-2008, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyboro

IMO, these things are all a bit of a nothingness..

personally, i cycle twice a day for the same reasons but never fasted anymore - doing anything major in that was tends to send me a bit hypo so its just not worth it.

obviously, this depends on what condition you're in now (as in doesnt really apply if your already lean) but basically, as long as you're in a calorie deficit then the rest is a bit irrelevant.

all just IMO of course

My opinion also.

If your in a calorie defecit and your doing regular, low/medium intensity cardio vascular exercise, then it is fairly obvious that you will lose weight. Weather your stomuch is full or not.

But avoid catabolism at all costs.

diaita · 07-08-2008, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomasjury

Thanks for the replies guys. I think I'll have some whey with water before I go cycling because at least that could be used for energy and wont add fat.

If you have to many cals it will add fat wether it comes from protien or carbs ,since both have the same amount of cals per gram and you require energy specific cals then i would take in carbs, and the protien shake after

I try not to get too concerned with all these things because I've only been training for 10 months and know that I just need to keep doing the basics (as i've found from reading the forum and alot of posts from LostSoul). I just like to know I'm not making any big mistakes. Thanks again

Your already getting bogged down mate,consentrate on food,everything else is a supplement

**hackskii** · 07-08-2008, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomasjury

Hi, I've been a member for a long time and read most of the posts but this is the 1st time I've written anything.

I'm currently happy with my size but am looking to lose fat to increase definition. Until now I've been cycling a 10 mile circuit I made up around my area of London, I do that 4 times a week and it usually takes 50 minutes to complete.

Based on what I've read on this forum I've been doing it on an empty stomach when I wake up but after speaking to a friend who has been training alot longer than me and knows alot more I'm worried I shouldn't be doing this, he said "eat first for weight loss and weight gain. you cannot burn enough fat on an empty stomach, it doesn't work like that. you have to eat to have energy to burn fat. you can't just not eat and run or the weight you lose will come back. have oats first thing then cycle and then protein shake and a banana"

He also said to always take a banana for after your workout as well as it will be used as quick energy and it will also create an insulin spike and make the protein assimilation more effective.

Sounds logical, what do you guys think? Thanks for any help

Diet for fat loss, or muscle gains.
Resistance training for fat loss or muscle gains.

Cycling is ok for cardio.
Resistance training for muscle and fat loss..........
For cardio you could hammer your legs during your cycle....Sprints would develop nice quads...............Or hill climbing..........

28-07-2008, 02:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
thomasjury Newbie Trainer Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 9	Cycling for fat loss Hi, I've been a member for a long time and read most of the posts but this is the 1st time I've written anything. I'm currently happy with my size but am looking to lose fat to increase definition. Until now I've been cycling a 10 mile circuit I made up around my area of London, I do that 4 times a week and it usually takes 50 minutes to complete. Based on what I've read on this forum I've been doing it on an empty stomach when I wake up but after speaking to a friend who has been training alot longer than me and knows alot more I'm worried I shouldn't be doing this, he said "eat first for weight loss and weight gain. you cannot burn enough fat on an empty stomach, it doesn't work like that. you have to eat to have energy to burn fat. you can't just not eat and run or the weight you lose will come back. have oats first thing then cycle and then protein shake and a banana" He also said to always take a banana for after your workout as well as it will be used as quick energy and it will also create an insulin spike and make the protein assimilation more effective. Sounds logical, what do you guys think? Thanks for any help

05-08-2008, 01:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
BigMatt1985 FOOD IS MASS! Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 133	Re: Cycling for fat loss I cannot comment on this because I lack the knowledge but I hope someone will as I train the same - cycle first thing 10k on an empty stomach Please could someone give advice, would be interesting to see what is the correct way to go about this.

05-08-2008, 01:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
diaita I am a no body, no bodys perfect there for I am Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 783	Re: Cycling for fat loss Its a mine field of methods and therorys, calorie deficeit/expenditure is the main stay behind most of them

05-08-2008, 02:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
diaita I am a no body, no bodys perfect there for I am Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 783	Re: Cycling for fat loss [quote=BigMatt1985;506961]I am trying to break my training down into small goals - I cycle on an empty stomach to try and lose bf% as I want a 6 pack Do you think just cycling 10 K every morning with 1 ab workout a week will do this?[/q Start a new post with Age weight Current Diet Goals Current exercise, If there is no deficiet/expenditure in cals then no, its down to diet in most cases.

05-08-2008, 04:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
irwit is realising, diet, traing, rest, supplements, 12 egg breakfasts are nothing without consistency Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London Posts: 505	Re: Cycling for fat loss lol no shame there is stealing someone elses thread ...

05-08-2008, 04:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
andyboro Gym Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Middlesbrough Posts: 469	Re: Cycling for fat loss IMO, these things are all a bit of a nothingness.. personally, i cycle twice a day for the same reasons but never fasted anymore - doing anything major in that was tends to send me a bit hypo so its just not worth it. obviously, this depends on what condition you're in now (as in doesnt really apply if your already lean) but basically, as long as you're in a calorie deficit then the rest is a bit irrelevant. all just IMO of course

06-08-2008, 12:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
thomasjury Newbie Trainer Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 9	Re: Cycling for fat loss Thanks for the replies guys. I think I'll have some whey with water before I go cycling because at least that could be used for energy and wont add fat. I try not to get too concerned with all these things because I've only been training for 10 months and know that I just need to keep doing the basics (as i've found from reading the forum and alot of posts from LostSoul). I just like to know I'm not making any big mistakes. Thanks again

06-08-2008, 11:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
7i7 Mutant Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Gun City Posts: 239	Re: Cycling for fat loss you should know using proteins as energy is a big waste.

07-08-2008, 01:41 AM	#12 (permalink)
thomasjury Newbie Trainer Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 9	Re: Cycling for fat loss 7i7 do you think that I shouldnt have it before i go on my cycle ride? i meant that i was thinking of taking it before i went cycling because that would mean me having it 1st thing in the morining. I guess im just confused as to whether i should take protein before or after i go cycling in the morning

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