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Old 23-07-2008, 02:12 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Wide Grip Chins

i used to be able to do like 20 a coupla years ago when i was 7.5stone lol, didnt keep doin them as i put weight on n now i can only do about 7 max : / wana get them upty a decent number again cause am joinin the marine reserves
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Old 24-07-2008, 11:28 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Wide Grip Chins

Yeah I'm in the same position as some you fellas, I can do maybe three or four with decent form before I start hoiking (a technical term) myself up with my arms and shoulders. I've never tried narrow grip chins since they incorporate the biceps more and I use the wide grips in my back workout.

I usually do about three or four, then two then...I go assisted just to feel like I've got some strength at all.

I've really progressed in the past few months at dips, but the wide grips are just at a standstill. They have been for as long as I can remember. I might do some lateral pull downs as suggested, never thought to try them to to improve my wide grip chins.

I do watch some people do a good few reps but they hardly seem to be moving at all, doing partials at best, really fast. I try to go all the way down and all the way up. It's a killer. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.
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Old 25-07-2008, 11:21 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I love wide grip chins, I have been training with a guy who could not do 1 a year ago now he can do 10 perfect with extra weight! just keep at it- i started with doing 4 then 10 then 12 then 15 then added weights for resistance!
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Old 26-07-2008, 06:47 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Im looking for a combination of 1 and 2 but i also wouldnt mind being able to hit our 5 or 6 wide grip chins.
Feel free to decide which of the 3 goals you want in that statement as I was kinda hoping you would not say all 3 as this is the reason you will not really ever do it at this stage

They all are very different skills/outcomes with a different protocol to boot, the closest being strength and the 5 reps.

The size doesnt really fit in there
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Old 26-07-2008, 12:54 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: Wide Grip Chins

say u can do 2 today try doing them most days durring a week as 2
then the next week try and do 3
and keep increasing , your body will get use to it.
i would say slowy build wont take long for you to get more 8-10
if i can do 8 you can! xD
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Old 26-07-2008, 12:56 PM   #21 (permalink)
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i did them yesterday, forgot i put on weight could do 7 on perfect form, last 3 i kept lifting my knees lol
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Old 26-07-2008, 01:11 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I did 5 sets of 10 reps earlier....
thats what i do -or 3x8 with 20k on belt and lats are good also hits arms

then seated rows -back knackrd after that
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Old 29-07-2008, 01:35 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I did 5 sets of 10 reps earlier....

But you're 'ard innit??!!

How heavy are you Robsta?
I'm 17st and can manage about 20 on the first set,10-12 on the second etc til i drop to about 6reps.

Maybe i should hold back and just do 10,10,10,10,10??(if i can obviously)
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i can do 3 sets of 5 unassisted and im a girl !
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Re: Wide Grip Chins

I do 3 X 6 reps with 40KG but as people have said its hard to feel the back with chins.
Just keep trying them twice a week, try with close arm aswell etc.
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Old 29-07-2008, 02:26 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Re: Wide Grip Chins

I started doing these 2 weeks ago in place of lat pulldowns as I was assured it's a better mass-builder for the upper back. I'm not surprised! I was steadily and easily lat-pulling 80k for reps, and i weigh 92k, so it was a very hard switch. The first week, I only managed 6-5-4 and then last week I managed a full 3 x 8, which was awesome.

The trick is to pull yourself up by squeezing your back rather than torquing through your arms. It sounds so much easier than it is!

Good luck with your quest for a broader, more detailed back with this awesome exercise!
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Old 29-07-2008, 02:32 PM   #27 (permalink)
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But you're 'ard innit??!!

How heavy are you Robsta?
I'm 17st and can manage about 20 on the first set,10-12 on the second etc til i drop to about 6reps.

Maybe i should hold back and just do 10,10,10,10,10??(if i can obviously)

I'm 220 lbs at the moment......Doubt if I could do 20 reps in one go, not strictly long arm to top anyway.....
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Re: Wide Grip Chins

20 is some going but i am almost fark'd after doing that set hence just 10-12 for the second set.

Still it's some pulls at 220lb 5x10.

Ohh,mine are always right down and right up.....or at least it feels like that when i do them.

I must also add,that in my years of training,i have seen very few people doing chins,dips,etc but i regularly used to see the usual 'yank as hard as you can on the pull downs,but it dont matter that you're lying down....and squeeeeeeeeeeeeeze' types.
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Old 29-07-2008, 09:13 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Re: Wide Grip Chins

It is sad to see how ppl cannot do basic bodyweight exercises these days, assisted chin up machines....wtf is that all about...??

Dipping and chins are some of the basic movements everyone should do, I even had my missus doing sets of 10 the other year, she put most fellas in the gym to shame, now Im not saying I can do them for hours...but they do increase strength in other exercises IMO.
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Old 29-07-2008, 09:35 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Re: Wide Grip Chins

I do chins and they have been my nemesis for ages. Best thing I done firstly was loose the assist. I think that was stopping my progress. I used to blame my bf% but when it came to it, it was strength. So, I changed from the machine to te cable machine that happens to have high grips (higher than the actually chin station - go figure). I do four sets. When I first started I was doing something like 3-3-2-2. I done these today and done 6-4-3-3. For me, I just try to make sure I add one extra rep onto one of the sets each week. Its tough like, very. A mixture of sore hands (Ive done deadlifts before these), and generally tired. But, I keep going back for more. I kinda enjoy the challenge now. Oh, these are close grip palms facing though, not sure if there is benefit over wide / narrow grip or overhand / underhand grip.
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