How do I get defined abs? Also I put weight on regardless of good deit and cardio - Page 2 - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

Gravity · 25-06-2008, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shorty

if you want defined ab's you'll do what ever it requires to get them.

3 square meals (2) of them curry aint the best way... believe me if it was i'd have the best ab's ever!

That sounds kind of typical the thing about curries. The currys given at resteraunts are totally different form the curries a lot of asians eat.

clarkey · 25-06-2008, 12:25 PM

Mate you either want abs or you don't. If you do you have to make sacrifices and plan your meals like others have said, you need to know EXACTLY what is going inside your body, how much and when. That way you can make adjustments if things are not going to plan. From what you have said it sounds to me you don't know exactly how much is going inside your body, you just want tasty food...I rarely have abs through the off season but 3 weeks into my comp diet and you get bet that they are there..why? because I have a plan in place.

Can I ask how much cardio you are doing and when?

shorty · 25-06-2008, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carly

totally agree!! if you want to build a great physique then you got work at it and dammmm hard at that! I eat religiously every 2-3 hours and would never go beyond 3 hours.why? because my body needs food and the right food at that to achieve the results I desire..

if I do not have time in the day then I prepare all my meals in boxes the night before, thats just the way it is, its a lifestyle I choose to lead to get results and good ones at that.. you want a good body then you HAVE to make sacrifises, theres no if's or buts involved

thats 100% correct... fail to plan, plan to fail (as james l says

)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravity

That sounds kind of typical the thing about curries. The currys given at resteraunts are totally different form the curries a lot of asians eat.

yes home-made is better and near said you eat take away curry

but anyone realisticly wanting to get low body fat wont eat 2 curry dishes most days (home made or not).

Gravity · 25-06-2008, 12:28 PM

Idon't eat curry dishes

shorty · 25-06-2008, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravity

I don't really keep track of my diet because I try to eat clean most of the time. For breakfast I'll have cereal and pouched eggs on 2 peices of toast. For the other 2 meals in the days I have two chapaties(each meal I have 2) with an asian dish which may include the following, spinach, lentils, lamb meat with soup, chicken with soup, rice, fish and things of that nature. Mostly I eat asian prepared dishes.

sorry if i mis-understood... Asian dishes... so oriental/Indian dishes.

when you mentioned chapaties just sounded like Indian foods

Jonferimonic · 25-06-2008, 12:40 PM

I agree with the others, you need to concentrate on your diet. You can train as hard as you want at the gym but if your diet is poor you are wasting your time. I dont believe anyone is in a situation where its impossible to eat right, unless of course you live in somalia or something!
I used to be the kind of guy who missed breakfast sometimes, had a couple of steak pies for lunch, went the gym followed by a big dinner and makybe a shake if i had room and went to bed - and then got ****ed off with everything because i was staying at the same weight.
Ive had a bit of a reality check after reading a few things on this forum, worked out what my calorie intake should be per day and now this is my diet(roughly) - and granted you are trying to burn fat as opposed to my trying to bulk up but obviously you'll have to tailor it to yourself.

I get up at 7am (ouch!) so i can eat 2 poached eggs on 2 toast
- shower
back in front of the telly with a bowl of porridge
- work for 9
by about 11 im eating a brown roll with turkey and watercress/hoummus
lunch at 1
about 4 ill have a bagel with something on top
- gym after work
home for a shake
followed by dinner, usually chicken with rice or steak or mince
maybe another shake before bed if i have room

on this diet im taking in about 3000 cals

heres a few links which might help you plan a better diet
http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/
http://www.thecaloriecounter.com/

As for working your abs yes you need to do more cardio to burn that fat off, it helps a lot to know what heart rate you should be working at to burn the most cals. If you cant find that out (ask the gym staff) then basically you should be sweating your **** off with your heart going like mad. Try some abs after every workout and eventually you'll notice yourself getting fitter and able to do more situps or whatever.

Knowledge is power mate.

Greekgoddess · 25-06-2008, 12:53 PM

Four months ago the owner of the gym I attend spoke the immortal words " You are not eating enough, particularly protein, to build muscle or lose fat" and told me I had to eat five or six times a day. I found it hard to eat enough, especially after years of thinking I had to eat little on a diet to lose weight. I really struggled to eat the steak, turkey, eggs, fish, cottage cheese and other things that I need to include in my diet plan. In the end I included protein shakes with raw eggs added to top up my protein intake.

Four months on, I have lost 14kg in body weight, much of it fat. I look lean and have clearly defined abs (which I train four times a week - it works for me). I have more muscle showing than I have ever had before.

Yes it is hard to eat all the right things, and lots of them. Your diet may be healthy (lean meat, carbs, veggies ) but it is not really a clean bodybuilding diet as such.

I guess the question to ask yourself is how motivated you are to make the changes, to achieve the look you want. Personally I am willing to eat what I have to and train till I sweat blood to get the look I want, and it is working.

Lost Soul · 25-06-2008, 03:45 PM

After reading your previous posts you have joined a bodybuilding forum nearly a year ago and posted about muslim faith, laptops and something about a job, randomly punctuated with the odd bit on training

Maybe alter your choice of reading/posting to get the info you want?

chrisj22 · 25-06-2008, 03:48 PM

The shape of your abs is down to YOUR genetics.

irwit · 27-06-2008, 04:47 PM

Apologies if Im only half reading but that title of post kind of annoyed me, almost an oxymoron

How do I get defined abs? Also I put weight on regardless of good deit and cardio

How could you ever get abs if you are putting on weight nomatter what diet and no matter what cardio. Surely you would be weighing more day by day ? Its a very negative and self defeatist statement. Read up on good weight loss diets in these forums, there are also alot of weight loss journals in here. Read as much as you can and learn from other peoples experiences and knowledge. You arent putting on weight depsite diet or cardio, you are putting on weight due to lack of knowledge of how to achieve your goals

25-06-2008, 12:25 PM	#17 (permalink)
clarkey Eating for England!! I'll be back... Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Nottingham Posts: 465	Re: How do I get defined abs? Also I put weight on regardless of good deit and cardio Mate you either want abs or you don't. If you do you have to make sacrifices and plan your meals like others have said, you need to know EXACTLY what is going inside your body, how much and when. That way you can make adjustments if things are not going to plan. From what you have said it sounds to me you don't know exactly how much is going inside your body, you just want tasty food...I rarely have abs through the off season but 3 weeks into my comp diet and you get bet that they are there..why? because I have a plan in place. Can I ask how much cardio you are doing and when?

25-06-2008, 12:28 PM	#19 (permalink)
Gravity Newbie Trainer Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 64	Re: How do I get defined abs? Also I put weight on regardless of good deit and cardio Idon't eat curry dishes

25-06-2008, 12:40 PM	#21 (permalink)
Jonferimonic 2011 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chester Posts: 431 Blog Entries: 3	Re: How do I get defined abs? Also I put weight on regardless of good deit and cardio I agree with the others, you need to concentrate on your diet. You can train as hard as you want at the gym but if your diet is poor you are wasting your time. I dont believe anyone is in a situation where its impossible to eat right, unless of course you live in somalia or something! I used to be the kind of guy who missed breakfast sometimes, had a couple of steak pies for lunch, went the gym followed by a big dinner and makybe a shake if i had room and went to bed - and then got **ed off with everything because i was staying at the same weight. Ive had a bit of a reality check after reading a few things on this forum, worked out what my calorie intake should be per day and now this is my diet(roughly) - and granted you are trying to burn fat as opposed to my trying to bulk up but obviously you'll have to tailor it to yourself. I get up at 7am (ouch!) so i can eat 2 poached eggs on 2 toast - shower back in front of the telly with a bowl of porridge - work for 9 by about 11 im eating a brown roll with turkey and watercress/hoummus lunch at 1 about 4 ill have a bagel with something on top - gym after work home for a shake followed by dinner, usually chicken with rice or steak or mince maybe another shake before bed if i have room on this diet im taking in about 3000 cals heres a few links which might help you plan a better diet http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/ http://www.thecaloriecounter.com/ As for working your abs yes you need to do more cardio to burn that fat off, it helps a lot to know what heart rate you should be working at to burn the most cals. If you cant find that out (ask the gym staff) then basically you should be sweating your ** off with your heart going like mad. Try some abs after every workout and eventually you'll notice yourself getting fitter and able to do more situps or whatever. Knowledge is power mate.

25-06-2008, 12:53 PM	#22 (permalink)
Greekgoddess Mature Bodybuilder Join Date: May 2008 Location: Greece Posts: 1,331 Blog Entries: 6	Re: How do I get defined abs? Also I put weight on regardless of good deit and cardio Four months ago the owner of the gym I attend spoke the immortal words " You are not eating enough, particularly protein, to build muscle or lose fat" and told me I had to eat five or six times a day. I found it hard to eat enough, especially after years of thinking I had to eat little on a diet to lose weight. I really struggled to eat the steak, turkey, eggs, fish, cottage cheese and other things that I need to include in my diet plan. In the end I included protein shakes with raw eggs added to top up my protein intake. Four months on, I have lost 14kg in body weight, much of it fat. I look lean and have clearly defined abs (which I train four times a week - it works for me). I have more muscle showing than I have ever had before. Yes it is hard to eat all the right things, and lots of them. Your diet may be healthy (lean meat, carbs, veggies ) but it is not really a clean bodybuilding diet as such. I guess the question to ask yourself is how motivated you are to make the changes, to achieve the look you want. Personally I am willing to eat what I have to and train till I sweat blood to get the look I want, and it is working.

25-06-2008, 03:45 PM	#23 (permalink)
Lost Soul Curing the 'Arms & Supplements Syndrome' (ASS) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,141	Re: How do I get defined abs? Also I put weight on regardless of good deit and cardio After reading your previous posts you have joined a bodybuilding forum nearly a year ago and posted about muslim faith, laptops and something about a job, randomly punctuated with the odd bit on training Maybe alter your choice of reading/posting to get the info you want?

25-06-2008, 03:48 PM	#24 (permalink)
chrisj22 An absolute fat bastard Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: T'up North Posts: 3,331	Re: How do I get defined abs? Also I put weight on regardless of good deit and cardio The shape of your abs is down to YOUR genetics.

27-06-2008, 04:47 PM	#25 (permalink)
irwit is realising, diet, traing, rest, supplements, 12 egg breakfasts are nothing without consistency Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London Posts: 505	Re: How do I get defined abs? Also I put weight on regardless of good deit and cardio Apologies if Im only half reading but that title of post kind of annoyed me, almost an oxymoron How do I get defined abs? Also I put weight on regardless of good deit and cardio How could you ever get abs if you are putting on weight nomatter what diet and no matter what cardio. Surely you would be weighing more day by day ? Its a very negative and self defeatist statement. Read up on good weight loss diets in these forums, there are also alot of weight loss journals in here. Read as much as you can and learn from other peoples experiences and knowledge. You arent putting on weight depsite diet or cardio, you are putting on weight due to lack of knowledge of how to achieve your goals