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boghog · 17-06-2008, 10:08 AM

Any tips/tricks on how to get the abs visible whilst still bulking on muscle mass?
Could a nutrition high on protein, average on carbs and very low on fat do the job?

bigacb · 17-06-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by boghog

Any tips/tricks on how to get the abs visible whilst still bulking on muscle mass?
Could a nutrition high on protein, average on carbs and very low on fat do the job?

Keep the bulk clean. If you dont have visible abs now then bulking you definatly wont. To bulk you need to have cals. If you dont its not a bulk. If you want abs then cut.

Magic Torch · 17-06-2008, 11:14 AM

Cardio, Cardio, Cardio, Cardio, Cardio and some more Cardio. How much do you do at the moment?

boghog · 17-06-2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bigacb

Keep the bulk clean. If you dont have visible abs now then bulking you definatly wont. To bulk you need to have cals. If you dont its not a bulk. If you want abs then cut.

Somehow, that makes sense. however, some people seem get both. how?

Greekgoddess · 17-06-2008, 11:28 AM

Magic Torch is right -cardio and more cardio - then when you get bored change to a different cardio but keep it up.

Whatever you do n (whether bulking or cutting ) try to keep healthy oils in your diet! Read some of PSCarbs excellent tips on this site.

If you are currently including so called low fat products try cutting them out. They are often full of wheat biproducts that cause bloating....... worth a try- it worked for me!

boghog · 17-06-2008, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Magic Torch

Cardio, Cardio, Cardio, Cardio, Cardio and some more Cardio. How much do you do at the moment?

I thought so, but I just got slayed on another thread for doing too much CV and not getting any days of rest (that is in order to increase muscle size).
At the moment I do weights 3 days a week and cardio 3 days a week and 1 day swimming (not sure if you would consider that cardio too).
To be fair, I did lose lots of weight, but that is because I was a fat bastard. now I am average and finding it very difficult to lose any more fat.

boghog · 17-06-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Greekgoddess

Magic Torch is right -cardio and more cardio - then when you get bored change to a different cardio but keep it up.

Whatever you do n (whether bulking or cutting ) try to keep healthy oils in your diet! Read some of PSCarbs excellent tips on this site.

If you are currently including so called low fat products try cutting them out. They are often full of wheat biproducts that cause bloating....... worth a try- it worked for me!

Thanks for the tips. I do try to keep the healthy oils (I have nuts and seeds, peanut butter, fish) but I do have plenty "low fat" products, such as yoghurt or cheese. How can I find out if they are bad? how would these wheat biproducts appear on the ingredients list?

bigacb · 17-06-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by boghog

Thanks for the tips. I do try to keep the healthy oils (I have nuts and seeds, peanut butter, fish) but I do have plenty "low fat" products, such as yoghurt or cheese. How can I find out if they are bad? how would these wheat biproducts appear on the ingredients list?

Google it mate. Type in cals in food and it will come up. People can stay lean all the time but they will always put on abit of fat. Read up some cutting techniques like carb cycling etc. If your stuck at a poin then something needs to change. The way i see it is get to the bf you want. Then start bulking, you will notice alot more at a lower bf that you are putting on fat. Its harder to notice at the higher end.

chronic-2001 · 17-06-2008, 12:22 PM

cardio, grappling works a charm too, burns alot of fat and harsh on the stomach muscles

bigacb · 17-06-2008, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chronic-2001

cardio, grappling works a charm too, burns alot of fat and harsh on the stomach muscles

Got to agree with that and its more fun than cardio

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BRABUS · 17-06-2008, 12:38 PM

Missing out one thing here. To have Abs show through when bulking they have to be developed just like any other muscle. Ive seen marathon runners with real low bodyfat yet no Abs.
Its always a good base to bulk from a dieted down state and then you can better monitor your increase in fat levels.

Now if your dieted down and your abs arent exactly ABS if you know what i mean then get some crunches in and thicken that ab muscle, ie develop it. Then as you bulk the muscle will show through the bulk a bit better, although not to a cut level

boghog · 17-06-2008, 02:07 PM

good point brabus, thanks
one question here, when you do your ab workouts, do you do more reps/sets than other muscles? would that make sense?

Lost Soul · 17-06-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by boghog

Any tips/tricks on how to get the abs visible whilst still bulking on muscle mass?
Could a nutrition high on protein, average on carbs and very low on fat do the job?

You dont unless you have very low goals and aspirations

boghog · 17-06-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lost Soul

You dont unless you have very low goals and aspirations

you say that, but I bet you have visible abs

Lost Soul · 17-06-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by boghog

you say that, but I bet you have visible abs

Correct and because:

I have trained years, 10-15 to be more realistic
I have cycled cutting and bulking when I cannot do both togther, which stops at about 11/12 stone
I eat an immaculate diet
I am hyper anal about everything I do
I dont devalue what it takes to have a good physique
I have educated myself
I dont dream
I dont search for the holy grail and forget the basics
I dont look to others achievements to justify my shortcomings
I have sacraficed certain lifestyle choices I enjoy
I dont drink alcohol
I do cardio daily

Not all of those are required but to think you are going to get huger and ripped at the same time is

time

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chronic-2001 Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 98	Re: Six Pack cardio, grappling works a charm too, burns alot of fat and harsh on the stomach muscles

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BRABUS Gym Addict Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 330	Re: Six Pack Missing out one thing here. To have Abs show through when bulking they have to be developed just like any other muscle. Ive seen marathon runners with real low bodyfat yet no Abs. Its always a good base to bulk from a dieted down state and then you can better monitor your increase in fat levels. Now if your dieted down and your abs arent exactly ABS if you know what i mean then get some crunches in and thicken that ab muscle, ie develop it. Then as you bulk the muscle will show through the bulk a bit better, although not to a cut level

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boghog Gym addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Surrey Posts: 44	Re: Six Pack good point brabus, thanks one question here, when you do your ab workouts, do you do more reps/sets than other muscles? would that make sense?

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