question about "rows" - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

MrGum · 08-06-2008, 03:44 PM

Someone on here once posted up "train like a power-lifter, eat like a BBer" and that is what I am trying to do.

I train three times a week, once at the gym and the other times at home. The gym session tends to be a bit longer

, because I can do stuff there I can't do at home.

I do:
Bench
Military Press
Squats
Deads
Bent-over Rows
Upright Rows
Good Morning
Dips
Lat-pulldowns (pull-ups when I get stronger

)

So, I do "bent-over rows" and also "upright rows".
I am thinking about dropping the upright rows as I am trying to focus on the core lifts and keep my sessions short
So, is it a mistake to stop the Upright Rows?
I am training for strength "primarily"

See my journal for more info on diet etc if you like.
mark

cellaratt · 08-06-2008, 03:53 PM

Do you know what muscles the up-right rows hit...? If the answer is no than why are you doing them in the first place...If the answer is yes then are you getting the result you were looking for with this exercise....I think it is a good exercise but a very muscle specific one...From the info you've givin I would say it's prob OK to chuck it...

MrGum · 08-06-2008, 04:46 PM

Thanks Cellarrat. I know it's an exercise for delts.
I am just kind of fine-tuning what I do - and I think I'll give them a miss.

mark

dru0111 · 08-06-2008, 05:07 PM

Chop out the upright rows, too many rotator cuff injuries have been caused by this exercise. I can't imagine a power lifter would do this exercise regularly! Deads bent rows and military press will hit all the muscles an upright row will.

MrGum · 08-06-2008, 07:20 PM

Thanks Dru. That's what I thought.

Lost Soul · 08-06-2008, 07:51 PM

DB deads will (or BB deads, but i prefer db) will hit rear delts and traps thus rendering upright rows surplus to requirement

I would also be inclined to leave GMs out, put sldls in and add cleans if you are training for power

Can do split squats and walking lunges for legs too

http://www.exrx.net/Exercise.html

MrGum · 08-06-2008, 08:24 PM

Thanks Lost Soul.
I do SLDL once a week and Deadlifts once also.
Thanks for the pointer on cleans.
I like GMs, but maybe don't need them. Lots to think about, thanks a lot.
mark

Lost Soul · 08-06-2008, 08:27 PM

GMs are ok there are just issues with safety when going heavy, SLDLs will recruit similar muscle groups and more poundage can be used as you progress

have you thought about some overhead squats too?

I like those

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...headSquat.html

quads, delts, core all done in one

clean the bar up, keep the weight low, nail the balance and they are nice

MrGum · 08-06-2008, 10:39 PM

Those overhead squats look really hard. Thanks again!
exrx is really good!
mark

davetherave · 08-06-2008, 10:45 PM

good luck pal

this might not add much to the discussion but upright rows may of knackered my delt, it may be one of the factors anyway, i no longer do them

MrGum · 08-06-2008, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davetherave

this might not add much to the discussion but upright rows may of knackered my delt, it may be one of the factors anyway, i no longer do them

It's all good. Just off to re-write my program!!

davetherave · 08-06-2008, 10:53 PM

Squat
Bench
Row

Deadlift
Overhead Press
Chins

Front Squats
Power Cleans
Dips

Rep range, probably 5x5. Or, a 2 day version would be the first two days, and you could change exercises a little to suit.

that routine was given to me as a strength routine for rugby, looks good to me (i was stuggling to take exercises out

08-06-2008, 03:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
MrGum Shallow, one-dimensional, obsessive. Join Date: May 2008 Location: Congleton, UK Posts: 450 Blog Entries: 16	question about "rows" Someone on here once posted up "train like a power-lifter, eat like a BBer" and that is what I am trying to do. I train three times a week, once at the gym and the other times at home. The gym session tends to be a bit longer, because I can do stuff there I can't do at home. I do: Bench Military Press Squats Deads Bent-over Rows Upright Rows Good Morning Dips Lat-pulldowns (pull-ups when I get stronger ) So, I do "bent-over rows" and also "upright rows". I am thinking about dropping the upright rows as I am trying to focus on the core lifts and keep my sessions short So, is it a mistake to stop the Upright Rows? I am training for strength "primarily" See my journal for more info on diet etc if you like. mark __________________ No guts, no glory. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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08-06-2008, 04:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
MrGum Shallow, one-dimensional, obsessive. Join Date: May 2008 Location: Congleton, UK Posts: 450 Blog Entries: 16	Re: question about "rows" Thanks Cellarrat. I know it's an exercise for delts. I am just kind of fine-tuning what I do - and I think I'll give them a miss. mark __________________ No guts, no glory. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

08-06-2008, 05:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
dru0111 200 lean pounds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Essex Posts: 458	Re: question about "rows" Chop out the upright rows, too many rotator cuff injuries have been caused by this exercise. I can't imagine a power lifter would do this exercise regularly! Deads bent rows and military press will hit all the muscles an upright row will.

08-06-2008, 07:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
MrGum Shallow, one-dimensional, obsessive. Join Date: May 2008 Location: Congleton, UK Posts: 450 Blog Entries: 16	Re: question about "rows" Thanks Dru. That's what I thought. __________________ No guts, no glory. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

08-06-2008, 08:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
MrGum Shallow, one-dimensional, obsessive. Join Date: May 2008 Location: Congleton, UK Posts: 450 Blog Entries: 16	Re: question about "rows" Thanks Lost Soul. I do SLDL once a week and Deadlifts once also. Thanks for the pointer on cleans. I like GMs, but maybe don't need them. Lots to think about, thanks a lot. mark __________________ No guts, no glory. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

08-06-2008, 10:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
MrGum Shallow, one-dimensional, obsessive. Join Date: May 2008 Location: Congleton, UK Posts: 450 Blog Entries: 16	Re: question about "rows" Those overhead squats look really hard. Thanks again! exrx is really good! mark __________________ No guts, no glory. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

08-06-2008, 10:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
davetherave if you don't fancy me you must be a salad muncher Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 2,175	Re: question about "rows" good luck pal this might not add much to the discussion but upright rows may of knackered my delt, it may be one of the factors anyway, i no longer do them __________________ my Journal - *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* PB's Works in progress SIA Badge paid for October 2007

08-06-2008, 10:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
davetherave if you don't fancy me you must be a salad muncher Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 2,175	Re: question about "rows" Squat Bench Row Deadlift Overhead Press Chins Front Squats Power Cleans Dips Rep range, probably 5x5. Or, a 2 day version would be the first two days, and you could change exercises a little to suit. that routine was given to me as a strength routine for rugby, looks good to me (i was stuggling to take exercises out __________________ my Journal - *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* PB's Works in progress SIA Badge paid for October 2007

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