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Old 07-06-2008, 07:39 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Beginner to the stage in how long?
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Year one (if done right) 35 lbs
Year two 15 lbs
Year three 10 lbs

AND IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING SOME WILL DO MUCH BETTER, AND SOME MUCH WORSE
Please can you provide some information on this

35lb of muscle as a natural in one year?
60lb over 3 years with some doing better?

Also some examples of those who have done better please
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Some natties stay leaner off season, but I would say on average 20-24 weeks.

If you have been doing it for ages and stay lean, then probably 12-16 weeks.

I am in the first category, but hold off the stupid amounts of cardio till the last 10 weeks.
Why is the natural cut so long? does it have to be this slow to preserve muscle mass or is because of no supps to help shed the fat?

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