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Old 14-05-2008, 12:56 AM   #61 (permalink)
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No, why should I have. I enjoy training with weights, and my own personal development. It might be selfish but I have no intrest in watching strangers in shows in person. I watch the shows on dvd (when i can download them) where I have a good location to see all the action and I can watch the classes in what ever order and watch them when i like Webcasts see photos but im not so intrested to sit in a noizy place.

Further what makes actualy atending the show so important? I dont understand what information I can gain about my comption from actualy atending in person compared to watching photographs or dvds of the event later.
Well, if you are posting on this board, then a lot of the lads would not be 'strangers'.

Seeing a show in real life is a completely different kettle of fish than watching on DVD/web cast or from photos.

BBing is all about 'illusion' and the reality of it hits you in the face when you meet a lot of the competitors face to face.

Personally, I think it would be very unwise to show up to do your first comp without ever having even attended a BBing show.
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Old 14-05-2008, 12:57 AM   #62 (permalink)
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GH use is outrageous and is way out of hand... There's a reason why Dexter wins the Arnold almost every year... and almost no one really wants to look like Mr. Olympia.

Everyone thinks the size game has gone so far and destroyed anything pleasing about the bodys which the current pros are bringing to the stage.

The under 202 class was designed SPECIFICALLY to help reign in the overusage of some of the drugs and help get the sport more mainstream.

Basically, since the late 80s when it became all about size, the sport has seen nothing but a downward trend.

Guys like Rusty Jeffers bring what I believe to be the best package to the stage almost every time and yet can't break the top 10.

It's sad.
What i see is that guys that are 5ft1" are going to be doing 202lbs class and your have your "classic" guys that are going to be totaly blown out of the water by these mini mass monsters its the nature of the compition that people will maximise there height/weight ratio.

How would bodybuilding even without the drugs ever become mainstream? its always had a gay conection right from the begining. Come on Sandow was bi-sexual. why do you think he was buried in a unmarked grave?

Look at the magazines like Strenght & health from the 30/40s its squarely aimed at the gay comunity. Its a lie to say that bodybuilding was ever mainstreem. Look at Arnolds performance in the Streets of Sanfransico, thats how the public saw bodybuilding in the 70s. It was always seen as a freaky subculture.

Its a insult to true champions like Haney, Yates, El Sonbaty et all to say they ruined the sport - they were and still are bodybuilding for many people.

Sure most dont want to look like them but then only a tiny fraction of the population ever had the potential to in the first place, its far easyer to look "classic" and conform to some crappy standard of beauty that socity has imposed upon not just women but also now men.

It takes far more self sacrifice/dedication/ability to look like they did then any that came before them.
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Old 14-05-2008, 12:59 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Well, if you are posting on this board, then a lot of the lads would not be 'strangers'.

Seeing a show in real life is a completely different kettle of fish than watching on DVD/web cast or from photos.

BBing is all about 'illusion' and the reality of it hits you in the face when you meet a lot of the competitors face to face.

Personally, I think it would be very unwise to show up to do your first comp without ever having even attended a BBing show.
Why? whats so diffrent? i fill out a aplication form, show up on the day pump up and go onstage when im called.
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Its a insult to true champions like Haney, Yates, El Sonbaty et all to say they ruined the sport - they were and still are bodybuilding for many people.

Sure most dont want to look like them but then only a tiny fraction of the population ever had the potential to in the first place, its far easyer to look "classic" and conform to some crappy standard of beauty that socity has imposed upon not just women but also now men.

It takes far more self sacrifice/dedication/ability to look like they did then any that came before them.
An even smaller percentage would be there without the drugs... and those that do get very large without them are VERY special.

Actually, Haney was very aesthetically pleasing... Yates looked like crap.

To even compare the two is absurd... Not even close... and then you put Nassar up there because he was 300 pounds doesn't help your case... He's another guy who when he first came on the scene looked fantastic.

Putting those 3 in a sentence believing that I would see them all the same is a huge blunder on your part.
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Old 14-05-2008, 01:12 AM   #65 (permalink)
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Why? whats so diffrent? i fill out a aplication form, show up on the day pump up and go onstage when im called.
Never competed before have you?
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Never competed before have you?
Who are you? why did you feel it nessary to post on this subject as your first post on the site? whats was your motivation to join? who told you to do this?
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Who are you? why did you feel it nessary to post on this subject as your first post on the site? whats was your motivation to join? who told you to do this?
If you don't know me... You will.

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I joined because I was invited to join... This was the first post I felt compelled to respond to.

Is everything clear now?
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Old 14-05-2008, 01:17 AM   #68 (permalink)
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Why? whats so diffrent? i fill out a aplication form, show up on the day pump up and go onstage when im called.
I think that a few of the competitive BBers on this board would probably recommend that you go to at least one comp before you compete.
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If you don't know me... You will.

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I joined because I was invited to join... This was the first post I felt compelled to respond to.

Is everything clear now?

Who invited you and who are you?
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Who invited you and who are you?
Why do you care so much?

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I think that a few of the competitive BBers on this board would probably recommend that you go to at least one comp before you compete.
Can you tell me why?
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Who invited you and who are you?
You could always google his name.

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Why do you care so much?

Yay... now I can send PMs.
Tatyana invited you eh, well that makes sence that you would back her up in this thread. Im still intrested who you are though You have many intresting opinons on bodybuilding I never met a natural bodybuilder before with such views... So I was intrested who you are if where you compete?
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All i can find is links to MD and some 32 year old unix admin....
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Tatyana invited you eh, well that makes sence that you would back her up in this thread. Im still intrested who you are though You have many intresting opinons on bodybuilding I never met a natural bodybuilder before with such views... So I was intrested who you are if where you compete?
I simply believe in what I believe.

I feel that steroid use is a good thing... but it's abuse is horrible.

I'm sure there is a fine line and I do not know where it is, but it is how I feel.

I wouldn't consider myself natural either... but I certainly would never demean anyone who is a natural and would never say that a natural would never be anything compared to an IFBB pro.

IFBB pros are simply the people who generally take the most drugs.

There are exceptions... Flex Wheeler, Kevin Levrone, Rich Gaspari, Shawn Ray... These guys looked fantastic.

If the IFBB wasn't all about "size" then Chris Cormier, Flex, Kevin, and Shawn would have all won a Sandow by now.
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